The Dark Side Of The MeToo Movement

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Kevin Anthony 0:28
Alright, welcome back to the love lab podcast. This is Episode 111. And it’s titled The Dark Side of the Metoo movement. This could potentially and I don’t really know where this discussion is going to go. But it could potentially be one of the more controversial episodes that we’ve done.

Kevin Anthony 0:49
Because I think we’re probably going to get some I mean, just look at the title right the dark side of the Metoo movement right now. We’ve already triggered at least 100 people just by saying that there even is a dark side to it. So I think it’s gonna be a really fascinating conversation we have a special guest and I’m really looking forward to getting it going.

Céline Remy 1:07
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Céline Remy 1:32
So today, we have Sarrah Rose with us. Sarrah rose is a Tantra practitioner and the founder of the tantric sex coaching service tantric activation. Sara developed her coaching techniques by studying Tantra mixing in evolutionary biology and adapting the method for practical use in the modern world. So welcome, Sarrah.

Sarrah Rose 1:55
Hey, so glad to be here. Thank you for having me.

Céline Remy 1:58
You’re welcome. So I know Kevin, you had a little something that you wanted to put into place as we are going to explore the meter movement. We need to go a little bit back in time.

Kevin Anthony 2:11
Yeah, well, so it’s really interesting because I knew the topic of this show was going to be specifically the Metoo movement. But for some reason, when I sat down and started, like kind of mapping out, like, what do I want to talk about? All these thoughts and ideas and questions about sort of feminism came in because for some reason, in my mind, it seemed like the two might be linked. I don’t know if they are not, but that’s kind of part of the questioning.

Kevin Anthony 2:36
That’s where we’re going to start going with this to see if the different waves of feminism in the past have kind of led us to where we are now. And then have we stayed on track or have we gotten off track that that sort of thing. So that’s kind of the direction I wanted to start with and then we’ll go from there. And I just had a few notes in here, just for those who aren’t super aware. When we talk feminism, it’s a word that’s thrown out there. That can mean a lot of different things. Because, you know, there’s the first wave, second wave, third wave.

Kevin Anthony 3:11
Now there’s even people talking about fourth waves, possibly even fifth waves, depending on who you talk to, and how your research. And each one of those sorts of had a different goal in mind. So like when we’re talking about first-wave feminism, really, that the whole goal of that was to get women the right to vote, that was really their main goal. They want it to be able to participate in that noble goal, of course, and I don’t think anybody would argue with that. Then comes the second wave.

Kevin Anthony 3:38
The second wave was really about women being able to get the same jobs and the same pay. I don’t think anybody would argue with that either. I mean, of course, right? That’s just a given. Mm-hmm. Then we start getting into the third wave. What I found interesting when I was researching the third wave, is that and I’ll quote here an article that I found out online.

Kevin Anthony 4:01
It says the third wave saw the emergence of new feminist currents and theories such as intersectionality, sex positivity, vegetarian ecofeminism, transfeminism, and post-modern feminism. And what struck me about that was it seems to have sharply deviated from let’s empower women, let’s get them on the same even level as men and started going off into subjects that, while they might be slightly related, seem to be not really related at all.

Kevin Anthony 4:32
And so the question that came into my head was, does the Metoo movement, is that a continuation, like, did the Metto movement started on the heels, sort of, of all these previous waves? Is this sort of a natural progression? Or is this something completely separate from any of that?

Sarrah Rose 4:56
I haven’t studied that quickly. So I can give you a definitive answer. And I mean, there’s maybe some Asian, I didn’t the Metoo movement is, is another wave of women’s empowerment. In theory and in practice and a lot of times as well, there is a shadow side to that has occurred. But I think that you know, the origins of me to really were in alignment with trying to empower women to have a voice to be taken more seriously to be able to be heard and respected.

Sarrah Rose 5:40
And unfortunately, as tends to be human nature, people take advantage of situations and we’ve seen some women, you know, make claims that have not been true, which is unfortunate for all the other women that are speaking, bullied is the one that tends to dominate. their credibility. And so I think we you know, we definitely have some challenges with what’s going on.

Kevin Anthony 6:07
Oh, yes. And we’re gonna dive deeper into a lot of the things that you started there. So I think that the next question before we go too far into the dark side and have everybody rip us apart about you’re only talking about the negative stuff, right?

Kevin Anthony 6:23
You did mention that there have been some benefits. So what I’d like to explore next is like, hey, let’s, let’s go into like, what have been the real benefits for women, potentially for men and society as a whole? In regards to the Me too movement? Like, let’s start positive.

Sarrah Rose 6:42
Yeah, I mean, sexual abuse is a real issue for men and for women, like and it’s something that as a society we have got to like sexual abuse cannot be tolerated. And so I think that part of the MeToo movement, of really, you bringing to the spotlight in both politics and society that we’ve got to take a stand against this.

Sarrah Rose 7:09
This smaller kind of the elephant in the room the thing that everyone knows about no one talks about I mean even within people’s own families, daughters telling, you know, dad did this to me and the mothers just like Shut your mouth don’t ever talk about that kind of thing. And that’s not okay. We cannot do this as a society. And so really giving full the permission This is to speak up about this and then start to say, like no, we’re not going to tolerate this is very important. I’m so I’m 100% behind that.

Céline Remy 7:45
Okay, so I think that you know, as a starting point, like it had a lot of good intentions. And that like a lot of things like with every movement that kind of comes a backlash into turmoil and in I think What I would love to explore is, you know, there was this whole idea with the MeToo movement, that it’s believable women mentality. And it is well-intentioned, but it’s completely misguided and harmful and actually harmful to both men and women.

Céline Remy 8:14
What I do see is the belief or woman is, unfortunately, we are forgetting a big part that a lot of people lie whether they men or women, people will lie. We forget to take that into consideration. And I was curious too because I do see that. For men, there’s It could also affect how they will show up with women, rather than being our allies. They might start to maybe be more afraid or concerned about how they interact with us.

Céline Remy 8:50
I also see another, another part in here, which is about lumping every woman together into the meter movement. Some women have spoken up saying like, hey, It’s taking away from the personal individual by just lumping it into this big thing. And it kind of loses its meaning for the person as an individual.

Céline Remy 9:08
So I’m curious to explore more about from your point of view, Sarrah, how it’s affecting men in general? And how do you see like, because when we talk about the dark side, like how this could impact the man female relationship dynamic there and in mostly in a negative way?

Kevin Anthony 9:26
Yeah, and I’m just gonna add to that really quick. So how have you seen it affect men, but also, as a Tantra practitioner, how has that potentially impacted your work and how you work with people to

Sarrah Rose 9:40
There’s a lot in all of that, I think that it’s important to remember that men have experienced a lot of sexual abuse as well. So this is not something that is only that only women go through and the statistics show one in two women, one in five men currently But most of the time, men don’t speak up about it. So it really could the statistics for men are higher than one in five.

Sarrah Rose 10:07
But regardless, that’s a lot of men that are suffering from sexual abuse. So it’s important that that is a part of this conversation. I do think what’s seen is that there is an attack on masculinity. Metoo has been weaponized to promote to further the attack on masculinity in many ways. And so that’s an aspect of the movement that I think is really out of integrity with what it’s supposed to be doing. So we have seen that there.

Sarrah Rose 10:49
And really the attack on masculinity comes from so much wounding and I have a lot of compassion and empathy for people and women I’m at how this wounding that comes from their experience of men. But we need to work towards healing rather than furthering hacks and, you know, using big, big movements like this and as weapons towards each other.

Kevin Anthony 11:19
So that’s great, I have a great follow up question for that. So, you’re saying that the movement has basically been weaponized to intentionally harm masculinity. I’m curious if you have any thoughts on why that is.

Sarrah Rose 11:35
So I see that there are a lot of people that really do despise patriarchy and patriarchy has some value to it, but it has harmed a lot of women. And but a lot of men have been harmed by patriarchy as well. Um, but often we put the word men male masculine. into the same category as patriarchy and men are not patriarchy. It’s the system that’s in place that has harmed all genders. And so when we’re we see the past on masculinity it’s often really an attack on patriarchy for sure, including all men should.

Sarrah Rose 12:27
The right way to go. I so in this we have been claiming to be feminists or even men claiming to be feminists that use a lot of the same tactics that claim to despise the patriarchy. And so it’s like, in also what it does is we work from the left we have as men, I see a lot of men shut down. They’re stealing because they don’t want to be associated with us. Something that’s negative something that society is, is really shaming now, and so they’re shut down their masculine power. And then you see, they don’t want to contribute to the problem.

Sarrah Rose 13:12
They have women in their life that they love that they have seen harmed by men, and that have used their masculine power in horrible ways, or even against themselves, you know, children, maybe they had a father that was an alcoholic that, you know, that was very abusive, and they’re like, I don’t ever want to be that. And it really impacts their view of what it means to be a man. And a lot of men just shut it down because they don’t want to contribute to the problem.

Sarrah Rose 13:40
And the problem is that abuse is the issue, not men, and, but sometimes those get, you know, just kind of intertwined in this situation that we’re in. And then you have women that have been abused by men who decide to say, Well, I’m just going to become I’m more like a man. If I am more masculine, then I can’t be hurt by men.

Sarrah Rose 14:05
And so when we see women like disown feminine essence and like losing their feminine, and then we got like two, two genders that are kind of denying their, their original face. And then we wonder why there are so many issues in a relationship and why there’s lack of attraction and it’s because we’re all really messed up when it comes to this.

Kevin Anthony 14:33
There are so many things that you said in there that I would love to come back to you. But I think Celine, you had something you wanted to share first?

Céline Remy 14:40
Well, I was thinking we dedicated an entire episode on polarity that was a hundredth episode where we’re really breaking down the importance of the masculine and feminine energy and really like playing with that in order to have a long-lasting attraction in relationships.

Céline Remy 14:55
So make sure you listen to that because Sarrah brought a really good point that is essential for a relationship for having a like passion in a long term relationship to being able to embody both energies, the feminine, and the masculine energy. There was something that I was thinking about when you said I was super curious about your opinion. When about when a man says he’s a feminist? How did what do you think about that?

Sarrah Rose 15:25
So when a man says he’s a feminist, I tend to think that he’s supportive of women that he probably has daughters and a wife that he respects and that he is supportive of equality, things that which tend to be a part of feminism, but it’s I feel like it’s a hard thing for a man say because there, there are men are damned if they do damn if they don’t, right like if they are embodying masculine traits then they’re accused of being toxic.

Sarrah Rose 16:03
They’re sick, masculine, like, and you’re not supposed to act like that. But then if a man doesn’t embody those traits, what we would deem traditionally masculine, then he’s made fun of he’s a soy boy or he’s you know, Peter Pan syndrome. He’s a metrosexual, you know, we have like all these terms that are mostly derogatory. It’s men that are not traditionally masculine. But then the guys that are they’re attacked as being toxic. What are they? What are they supposed to do?

Kevin Anthony 16:39
Yeah, absolutely. So I want to go back to a few things that you said before, and one of them is you made a clear distinction between patriarchy and men, and I really loved that reframe because I don’t think that is really shared enough out there is a system that we call patriarchy that is oppressive. Yes. Typically to women, but also somewhat to men as well, as you stated, and that is really separate from men themselves.

Kevin Anthony 17:07
And I think it’s really dangerous to lump all men into, they’re all part of the patriarchy. So that was a really great point that I hope our listeners take away from this episode. The second thing that I want to talk about was exactly what you said, which is, you know, these well-intentioned men who want to support women and feminism because they know that it’s the right thing to do that we are all equal, right?

Kevin Anthony 17:32
Like, that’s, like I said, sort of in the beginning, of course, who would argue with that, right? but yet they do exactly what you said, which is, they sort of denying their masculine qualities. And I, we see that because we’ve talked about this a lot. We’ve done multiple episodes on polarity and stuff like that.

Kevin Anthony 17:50
But what makes for a great relationship is that polarity and we’ve made it very clear that it’s masculine and feminine energies and that, you know, women can embody masculine energies, and men can embody feminine energies. But when you have two people coming together, you need to have those opposite energies present in order for there to be real attraction and real chemistry. And so what you were describing was, you’ve got men who are trying to feminized themselves and not have such masculine traits.

Kevin Anthony 18:22
And then in response, you have women who are now masculinizing themselves, right? So we started out I’m holding my hands up for those listening on the podcast and not watching the video. But we started out not really opposites, but we started out sort of opposed in our energies. And we’re both coming to the center now. Right and occupying almost the same space. So we see that as really destroying the polarity in any relationship. I’m wondering if in your teachings and in your practices, like do you see the same thing happening?

Sarrah Rose 18:59
Yes. Absolutely and I mean, I really encourage men to show up strong in their masculine energy to heal the wounding that they have around mass because men that I work with are heterosexual men so I’m not working with people that piece of varying results be nonbinary or homosexual or things like that and people in that identify in different ways are going to have their own way going about this but I suppose we were sexual men.

Sarrah Rose 19:31
And so these men I’m like, you got to embody your masculine energy in a powerful way. And we do all the work around healing that and what does it mean to show up as a man is masculine is masculinity. Domination is it taking because often that’s the way that it is portrayed, and but can a man instead, a warrior can he be a protector can He, you know, show up in those ways for the woman is for his daughters. And that type of energy is so incredibly masculine and so attractive to a woman. And it’s also very healthy.

Céline Remy 20:17
So I’m curious if you have a practice or something that our listener, especially our male audience can start doing right now to get more in touch with their own masculine power, of course, we have our own and we’ve shared those online already. But I’m curious about what do you have for our listeners for a male audience right now to start reconnecting with their masculine power?

Sarrah Rose 20:42
Yeah, I’m one of the things that I actually encourage men to do is some sort of martial arts where they learn how to fight or they learn how to defend. I and I think that’s really an important aspect because when you look at us on a biological level, we have “fight” and “fuck” instincts. And like, those are the two reasons that we’re here.

Sarrah Rose 21:08
And we see in current society that men are very disconnected from both like they’re there. those aspects of masculinity are heavily shamed. If, if a man is like, just look at the military, for instance, does the military do everything right?

Sarrah Rose 21:27
No, absolutely not. But you can see how men that are in the military, there’s like this stigma about them, right? Like, oh, you’re out there, you’re killing people, like how do you kill innocent people? How could you, you know, defend a country that that like are like a desert, so many diverse things around the world, right. So men that embody that that ability to protect and defend are heavily shamed.

Sarrah Rose 21:55
Not saying that there’s nothing that goes wrong in those in those areas because they’re clear Is, but you can really just see how there’s an attack on men that that embodied type of energy, the same that we see. In the police system, there are a lot of horrendous things that are going on in society in regard to that. There were a lot of officers out there that are doing the right thing as well. But the entire system is being attacked, because of what some of these men are doing. Who are these men, they’re men that are supposed to be protectors and defenders. And so the aspect of masculinity is a real heavy shame.

Sarrah Rose 22:38
And so we need to allow men to have a place where they can in a healthy way in a really, you know, in a way that is positive, be able to protect and defend that’s a very natural instinct for a man and if he doesn’t have that it has taken away from him. Part of our like, it’s our survival instinct. And when you take that away from people, you’re really taking away a big part of their power. And then same with sexuality.

Sarrah Rose 23:09
Men are, you know, either told you’re supposed to talk as many women as you possibly can. That’s what makes you a man, or sex is very shameful, it’s dirty, it’s dangerous, you need to stay away from it don’t have sex at all. And so they’re put into these two extremes. And that also disconnects them from their sexuality. So men are just inherently disempowered I in these two very fundamental aspects of who they are.

Sarrah Rose 23:41
And so I’m working with men. I mean, I have a six-month coaching program. So it’s hard to say like this one thing because we really go into so much around the psychological, the emotional aspects of it all on a really deep level. I wish I could be like, here’s a quick fix, but I don’t have one.

Kevin Anthony 24:04
Well, there’s no such thing as a quick fix. But, you know, now you’re speaking my language, right? Fucking fight. I’ve been a martial arts practitioner for I don’t even know how long now 15-18 years something like that I’ve trained in multiple arts, and I actually teach martial arts also. So I 100% agree with you that I think that it is a great way for men to get in touch with their masculine side in a healthy way.

Kevin Anthony 24:30
And at the same time, learn a practical skill that could maybe one day save your life or your significant others’ life. So I totally agree with that. I think that’s great. I think anything that really helps men in the body who they are as masculine, but doing it in a safe and responsible way is fantastic.

Céline Remy 24:50
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Kevin Anthony 25:35
Well, let’s talk more about the fucking cuz Yeah, that actually is my favorite.

Céline Remy 25:40
Absolutely. So because I want to tie it to the conversation we’re having around the meter movement. And so definitely something that I’ve seen happening is that I do believe that it has put men in a very difficult situation where they have to start to kill their own instincts. times on their own sexuality or, or just sexual energy because they too afraid sometimes of being misunderstood. And I’m curious to see what you think about that around like, has a meter impacted men’s in their ability to express their sexual energy freely.

Sarrah Rose 26:19
Yeah, so I see it from a couple of different angles I see it from the perspective of the men that I work directly with but then I’m also single and I’m out there dating so I get that side of it too. And I tend to work with the really good guys like the guys that just inspire me like I’m so blown away always by the men that I work with and how awesome their intentions are. And, and so I do hear it from them, though like that they shut down their masculine power because they don’t want to.

Sarrah Rose 26:54
They don’t want to be part of the problem. They don’t want to be accused of something they feel in In it’s really challenging for men because they’re like, Okay, if I, if I’m not embodying my sexual energy and a woman and not in that pursuit mode, then a woman friendzone me. And yet if I, if I do, then, you know, in the moment she could seem to be open to, you know, advances, things like that, but then the next day, she may think about it and be like, Oh, actually, I didn’t like that and you were too forward. And so they would rather just date risky right now.

Sarrah Rose 27:39
And then I from like a dating perspective, I definitely see sides of it. I’ve seen guys that and I could tell were just totally like, removed from that part of themselves. And then I still see other guys that are really aggressive to the point of being too aggressive and like, I’m super Passionate. I’m half Italian, like, I definitely have like that sexual energy. And most of the time I’m like, full-on yes. But even for me, I’ve come across guys that I’m like, you need to get it together.

Sarrah Rose 28:13
And I think that’s where Tantra is so effective at helping people, it’s because you can have that amazing sexual energy just flowing freely through your body. But you can channel it, you can harness it, you can, you can embody it without it controlling you. And that’s the difference.

Kevin Anthony 28:35
Okay, so, yeah, I mean, I love that. And what I’m curious about now is like, Okay, so that’s what you’re seeing with a lot of men. So the question is, like, where do we go from here like me to movements here? I don’t think it’s going anywhere, anytime soon. Men are going to have to deal with the repercussions of that for decades, probably. So how does a man Alright, in today’s world, how does he go about dating? How does he go about interacting with women given all of this? Like what, like, what does he do now?

Sarrah Rose 29:09
Yeah, so you, you’re right, we do have to, we do have to exist in a new way in this current society. And again, not all of it’s bad, because there was a lot of bad shit going down. So I really don’t need to stop. But for the guys that don’t have any bad intentions that are really just there to be with a woman and are excited to meet somebody amazing to have a thriving relationship with me, I think that a big part of it.

Sarrah Rose 29:39
First of all, I think Tantra is about to just like, blow up around the world because there are so many people that really needed this right now. And it’s really relevant for the times that we’re in. And it’s very helpful. So I think that’s part of what we’re currently seeing again, to see more of, and, but you have to communicate, it’s gotta be consent.

Sarrah Rose 30:00
Step by Step, step by step. And I was out with a guy last week or the week before and like, he did that and it wasn’t weird. It was constantly Is it okay? If I touch? Is it okay? If I put my hand on your leg? Is it okay? If I kiss you? Is it okay? You know, and it was like, and he did that like he was very good, I can send the entire time.

Sarrah Rose 30:21
And it didn’t pull the mood at all. So I think that’s a thing that a lot of guys say, Oh, well, it kills the mood. It doesn’t have to. It’s like if there’s the attraction there. If the mood is there, then asking for consent isn’t going to kill the mood.

Sarrah Rose 30:37
If there’s not consent if she’s feeling something inside of her that said, no, then you ask for consent, then she’s going to be more likely to speak that and so you may not get what she wanted, because, you know, you gave her the opportunity to say no, so I think many men that say, Oh, well, it kills the mood. It’s because she was actually feeling it. Now. Once you’ve just asked, you just got to speak it.

Céline Remy 31:02
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that’s an important point I think also to remember that maybe she’s a no right now or she needs more time. Maybe she needs to connect deeper or have a few dates before being a yes. Sometimes people are so conditioned to hear no was this like a massive personal rejection. And it’s not what it is about a no, it’s simply honoring the person’s like boundary where they are at at the moment and that things shift all the time.

Céline Remy 31:28
But I love that you really brought up that it’s not a mood-killing thing to ask for consent that it actually can enhance In my opinion, it can enhance the intimacy because then I feel more respected and, and cared for by the men. And it can create a safe container for us both to explore and play for sure.

Sarrah Rose 31:49
It’s great and it’s really is about emotional maturity, which is so important in relationship and sex is what most people are lacking. And we’re so immature.

Sarrah Rose 32:00
When it comes to talking, when it comes to anything around intimacy, sex relationship who just shut down or like, you know, a two-year-old that’s been put in the corner, you know, sitting there and in timeout and like that’s the type of attitude people come into this like, oh, I’m being punished I got a shirt that was shut down. You know, we’ve got to just grow the fuck up.

Kevin Anthony 32:25
Yeah, we do that legally agree. So I guess if I could summarize for not only the men listening but also the women so they know what to look forward to man. It would be a man who embraces healthy masculinity, right? So somebody that actually actively goes out and, and participates in things that cultivate healthy masculinity. It would also be a man who has a high level of emotional intelligence or emotional maturity, as you said, are sometimes called EQ, right?

Kevin Anthony 33:00
And then also a man who communicates well and isn’t afraid to ask for permission and do all that sort of consent stuff. So like, if we encapsulated all of that, and we gave that to a guy to hear, here’s what you need to do, like, do we think that would? That would be a good first step towards operating in today’s post me to society?

Sarrah Rose 33:26
Yeah, I do. And I do not put this all on men, women have their own stuff to deal with when women have so much healing work to do so much work around their own sexuality and maturing as women. So this is not a one-sided conversation. And clearly we’re speaking to men and talking about men in this in this conversation. But just for the guys out there, this is not all on you, like women have their own stuff to do.

Céline Remy 33:57
Yes, absolutely. I mean, it takes two to tango. So gotta remember that. So we have our favorite question which we like to keep last for our guests. Sarah, we’re very curious. We want to know what is your best sexual talent? And I’m going to say that she also mentioned she’s single. So pay attention. Pay

Kevin Anthony 34:17
attention, everybody. She teaches Tantra she’s single, so you might want to write this down.

Céline Remy 34:22
So tell us all about your best sexual talents. Sarrah?

Kevin Anthony 34:25
she’s blushing.

Sarrah Rose 34:27
Okay, I will have to say my favorite thing is deep-throating I love it but I love like getting the cockpit in there and look choking on it. So like where my eyes are watering and but one of the cool things is that when I deep throat, I squirt and it’s just like an automatic response that happens. And yeah, it’s my favorite.

Kevin Anthony 34:53
That might be one of the best answers we’ve had to that question

Céline Remy 34:56
Definitely the most graphic one. That’s is awesome. So to All the men listening out there saying, oh, women don’t like blowjobs I’m like, that is so not true because Sarrah is into it, I’m into it.

Kevin Anthony 35:07
She deep throat…

Céline Remy 35:08
And she squirts. Yes, winning combo there. So now is the moment you get to tell all of our listeners where they can find you how they can connect with you. Of course, we’ll have the link to your site TantricActivation.com where they can get a free course I believe, but yeah, just let them know where they can connect with you. Yeah,

Sarrah Rose 35:34
so my website is Tom trick activation.com. On Instagram at tantric activation, the same Facebook is tantric activation. And then on Twitter is I am Sarrah rose. Sarah has two R’s as RR h rose. And then my podcast is sex and Sarrah rose.

Céline Remy 35:55
Wonderful, awesome. So go check those links out. If you want to hear more About Sara’s amazing skills, but also, I felt like we were very aligned. It’s really nice because everything that you share, I think that we have been teaching on the show or in our courses.

Céline Remy 36:14
And it’s nice to have other people who are sharing some of the same wisdom because like you said, it is needed for this world. And the more the merrier. We need to spread this message. So thank you for doing the work that you’re doing.

Sarrah Rose 36:27
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.

Kevin Anthony 36:29
Yeah, no, I would, I would love for the listeners to remember one thing. We don’t give the guests the questions ahead of time. So we don’t actually know what they’re going to say. Right? We haven’t pre like discussed this. So the fact that what Sarrah is saying on the show happens to line up with what we’re teaching. We didn’t know that ahead of time. We didn’t invite her on the show just because she agrees with our point of view.

Kevin Anthony 36:52
Right. And so I think that’s important because what I want people to understand is that we’re not the only ones that there are other people out there who understand this too. And you know, the more voices that we have out there sharing this, the louder we can become the bigger impact we can make.

Céline Remy 37:09
Thank you so much for today’s conversation, Sarrah. It’s been a delight. And thank you all for listening and we will see you next week.

Kevin Anthony 37:24
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Céline Remy 37:31
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Kevin Anthony 37:45
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Céline Remy 37:47
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