A Guide To Period Sex- And Why You Should Do It

Céline Remy 0:11
Welcome to the love lab podcast a safe place to get real about sex wether you are a man, woman, single couple. This is the show for you. Because well, sex matters. We are your hosts, Kevin Anthony, and Celine Remy.

Kevin Anthony 0:27
Alright. Welcome back to the love lab podcast. This is Episode 55. And it is titled A Guide to period sex, and why you should do it. And this is somewhat of a special episode too, because apparently, Celine decided last week that we were going to switch to video. So if you listen to the last episode on YouTube, you would have seen us in a video that we didn’t actually know we were going to be using when we recorded it. So this week, we are actually doing I guess, our first official recording of a video for the YouTube channel.

Céline Remy 1:09
Yeah, so you can still listen to us when you’re in your car, or you can watch us on YouTube, whatever you like, and whatever works for you. So I got really excited about today’s episode, because well, I was bleeding last week. And it’s has been on my mind because I think there’s a lot of misconceptions when people think about period sex bleeding. And you know, should I do it? How’d you do it? And I mean, so many things.

Céline Remy 1:38
One of our goals was to, as always, you know, bring you lots of value, but it helped to bust the myths and the misconceptions so that you can feel more empowered by your sexuality, you can release the shame and because there is a lot of shame that’s associated with bleeding menstruation mine times for women and four men. So that’s our intention,

Kevin Anthony 2:03
You know, it’s kind of crazy about that is that you’re You are correct in the fact that there is a lot of sort of shame and misconceptions. But what’s so funny is that in our world, when I hear you say that here on the show, you know, sometimes it’s really hard for me to believe because in our world is not like that at all.

And has it been for so long that I forget that other people still have those things? So, yeah, and you know, nothing? No, no offense intended, if you still believe some of these things. But yeah, it’s time that you let go of it.

Céline Remy 2:41
So the short answer to you know, is it okay to have period sex? Yes. And I think I want to frame it before we dive into the misconceptions because this is going to be really fun. By the way, when we were doing research on what people think and stuff. People think that you know, if you look at different religions, sometimes it says like, the women should not be cooking, the women should not be even having sex be around man, I spent four and a half months in India when I was in my early 20s.

Céline Remy 3:12
In that culture, women need to step outside of their day-to-day practices, and just do like, like kind of go bleed on their own. I remember a time where I thought that it was like a total like patriarchy a thing against the feminine. Somebody took the time to explain to me the origin of the idea that it actually started and originated from a place of giving the women and the feminine, a place to bleed, and a place to relax and not have to do the chores that she usually takes care of. And we’ll talk more about the power of menstrual blood later in the episode. But it is definitely a very powerful time for a woman.

Céline Remy 4:01
And one of the reasons that they were asked to step out of churches or temples was because, in that time, a woman has access to direct access to spirits, two energies that can come through her if she’s willing to listen. So whether you call it intuition guidance, we don’t have to be religious there. But it threatened the religions that were in place. And the priests were like, Oh, do we want these women’s where we can’t control them. And suddenly they channel things. So they say things like, so they were like, let’s push them out of the place that you don’t have the temples.

Kevin Anthony 4:48
So basically, what you’re saying is that, as is so often the case, something started with a good idea. Then somebody perverted that good idea. They muddied the water so much that nobody could ever figure out after that, was this done for a good idea or bad idea? And, and as is, again, often the case, where you see when people say, No, no, it’s this way? And no, no, it’s this way. There’s a sort of a plausible case made for both. Because both are true, in as far as they usually go with them.

Céline Remy 5:26
Absolutely. So the first thing for sure is to realize that it’s not a curse, that it could be a time of power, that can be a beautiful time of healing and so many other things. And when you approach it from that place, and by the way, there are practices that I teach, and other people teach to where you can help to reduce the amount of bleeding, the amount of cramping so that this is not a time where you’re suffering. If your body is balanced and healthy, it’s usually it’s, it’s an easy time.

Kevin Anthony 6:00
Yeah, that’s a good point to bring up, which is, you know, some women may be thinking, you know, why would I want to have sex during my period when I’m just in pain and feeling miserable the entire time? And the answer to that is, you shouldn’t be in pain and feeling miserable all the time.

Céline Remy 6:15
Yes, if you are, it’s because there’s an imbalance in the body. But sex can help as well. And we’ll dive more into that. So I know it was a long intro, I just wanted to make sure we had put these things into place. So where do we want to start? In terms of our misconceptions here, Kevin, lead us into that?

Kevin Anthony 6:38
Okay, misconception number one, you are at greater risk of STI, STD infection. If you have sex during your period, that actually is not true. menstrual blood is no different than normal human blood. And really, it’s not harmful in any way. It’s not really different than being exposed to any of the other bodily fluids that you are exposed to when you have sex. So the rule basically is very simple.

If your partner has an STI, and you would normally use some sort of protection, when not bleeding, you do it when bleeding do it’s the same thing. In other words, there’s no difference between when she’s bleeding and when she’s not bleeding when it comes to STDs, SD eyes and taking the necessary precautions. Mm-hmm.

Céline Remy 7:35
Yeah. So one thing to remember though is that it does changes a little bit the pH inside the vagina when you are bleeding. And so your vagina usually maintains a pH level of 3.8 to 4.5 throughout the month, but during menstruation that level rises, because of the higher pH level of the blood, which means that yeast is able to grow more rapidly.

So it’s not so much that it’s something from the outside that could like come like and put you out of balance. It’s just your own pH levels could be off which in terms and you can have a yeast infection when you bleeding.

Céline Remy 8:17
Just remember that and I want to say like in and I know, it’s somewhere in our show notes, and I’m jumping around a little bit. But when it comes to having sex during your period, like literally don’t, I’d say don’t have sex with a stranger when you bleeding. But if it’s your current partner, if it’s somebody you’ve been with, and you know their history and all of that, then it is absolutely absolutely safe and a sacred time to have sex. It might not be what you want to share with a stranger, whom you haven’t yet had all the discussions that need to happen.

Kevin Anthony 8:54
I mean, you could from a health point of view, that would be fine. But there might be some other reasons why you might choose to wait until you’re not bleeding to be with somebody new. But let’s continue on with some of these misconceptions. Because here’s the crazy thing is like, we knew that there were misconceptions when we were creating this episode. But as always, we like to do our research.

And so you know, we start getting on the internet, we start looking for what types of questions are people asking about this subject? What is it that people actually want to know? And I came across some of the craziest stuff. I’m like, really, I’m like, really, this is like people don’t know the answer to this or like, these are the things people are thinking so.

Kevin Anthony 9:35
So you know, I took down just a couple of the ones that I thought were pretty good, and that we should talk about. The next one is menstrual blood is harmful to the penis. This is a misconception. And the question that I saw people asking across the internet is, is menstrual blood harmful to the penis? In fact, according to science and medical doctors, it is in no way harmful.

So the concerns and the worries have nothing to do with it. menstrual fluid is a mix of blood and tissues that line the uterus every month to prepare for pregnancy. If the pregnancy doesn’t occur, then it’s simply shut out. So it’s just all normal stuff.

Céline Remy 10:20
It’s nothing weirder than semen. Basically, you know, if you are fine with what comes out of your penis, you should be fine. But what comes out of the vagina basically?

Kevin Anthony 10:30
Exactly. So

Céline Remy 10:32
How about that one? Is sex during periods of perversion? Does it make you a kinky fuck?

Kevin Anthony 10:43
Well, for some cultures maybe or belief systems, they don’t necessarily believe in having sex during bleeding. But there’s absolutely nothing to back that up whatsoever. So it is perfectly normal. And according to studies, most couples do have sex during their period.

Céline Remy 11:09
And we’ll talk more about why you want to do that. Yeah, it does help. It works really well. So and also it’s funny, like the perversion the idea again, it’s about like, putting menstrual blood over there. Like that thing that we don’t talk about. And or like, yeah, it’s it has this whole shame thing around it. And so the more we’re able to talk about it just as regularly, you know, I like to announce it to the world, hey, I’m bleeding. You know, like, I’m always the first one.

Céline Remy 11:40
Let’s say I go to my yoga class. And the first thing I tell my teacher, I’m bleeding today. So I’m going to take it easy, you know, or like, or, like we are the gathering and someone’s like, yeah, I’m going to our grumpy I’m leading, or whatever it is, you know, I’m like, we need to make people more aware, because it’s something that everyone goes through.

Kevin Anthony 11:56
So, but by the way, when you mentioned earlier that, you know, it was a practice for the women to not have to do their chores and the things they normally do. I was thinking in my mind, like, okay, women, raise your hands, how many of you would love to get a free pass every time you bleed? where it’s like, oh, it’s your bleeding week, okay, just go meditate, relax, sleeping, do your thing. You all will take care of all of the other things you normally do. Like, how many of you would love that?

Céline Remy 12:25
I actually do that? Well, that’s one of the beauty of working for yourself, right? Is that you can choose. And when I’m bleeding, I always give myself at least a day or two of slowing things down of like resting of just like doing things that do not that nourish me, basically.

Kevin Anthony 12:43
Even if it’s working, it has to fuel me, you know, this is something that I wish the corporate world would really embrace. And, you know, some people might have a problem with that, oh, it’s discrimination in the other way. Why did they get it but you know, if you’ve ever experienced bleeding, which obviously I’ve not, because I’m a guy?

But just observing it, like, you know, think about, you know, anytime when your body doesn’t feel normal, or it feels off, maybe because you’re starting to get sick, or maybe because you know, you’ve got digestive anytime, where you really don’t feel good. And now imagine that for like days on end, and then trying to push through some sort of hard corporate career, you know, like, obviously, that’s not going to be real fun, right?

Céline Remy 13:26
There are some companies who do give you like a day off. And there was a time when I worked for somebody, and she was a woman and I could take one day off every month for bleeding. Basically, that was really cool. It could be a day

Kevin Anthony 13:39
off, or could just be like, hey, maybe we’re not going to impose so many demands on you this week, you know? Absolutely.

Céline Remy 13:49
So I see like next of our misconception here that sex during periods will stop bleeding, or will increase bleeding, by the way. Because I think it works both ways. Some women do notice that their beard stops within a day or so of sexual intercourse.

Kevin Anthony 14:07
But that doesn’t mean that the blood has been pushed back up into the uterus and it’s unable to flow out. Like that’s the real misconception that somehow it’s going to shut everything back up in there. And it’s going to cause a problem because it won’t be able to come out that is nonsense.

Céline Remy 14:21
Well, what really happens is when you have sex, it creates uterine contractions, right? So that expels the menstrual fluids, the blood, and tissue faster. So that kind of causes the bleeding to stop sooner than usual. What I’ve noticed for me is I have a very light cycle. And so let’s say I’m, I’m towards the end, and it’s already like day three, and I’m barely bleeding. But if we have sex, it will bring some bleeding back, but just for like, an hour or so. And I think it kind of like, cleans it out. That’s what we were talking this weekend about was like, yeah,

Kevin Anthony 14:54
you know, the other thing is, too is that the head of the penis is designed to be a pleasure. It’s a pleasure. I mean, research sperm competition, right. Like, if somebody else is already ejaculate inside the womb, and you come along and have sex with the penis is designed to pull all of that out with every with every

Unknown Speaker 15:13
thrusts

Kevin Anthony 15:15
as you come out, so you thrust in, and then you come out and you’re literally pulling everything out so that you can make room for your own semen. So that same sort of thing happens with, you know, menstrual blood, which is it really helps pull stuff out.

Céline Remy 15:28
That’s cool. So you might notice it could increase the bleeding just because you just had sex and there was more contraction, but then it will stop the bleeding, it could restart. So yes, sometimes it does modify it a little bit, but there’s nothing dangerous about it. And here’s the thing, you actually want to have uterine contraction you want to have, you don’t want to have stagnation of the, of the energy and of the blood when you have stagnation.

That’s usually when you feel cramping, where you have heavy bleeding or clots or things that are like you not feeling normal, per se.

Céline Remy 16:02
And so when there’s blood-chi stagnation, if you go see an acupuncturist, that’s what they’ll do, they’ll get the blood flow to move for the body better so that there’s not so much of that stagnation in the uterus. So actually, it’s a really good thing. So you want to have sex to activate this circulation.

Kevin Anthony 16:21
Alright, the last one on our list and these are by no means all of them. So many of them, some of them were even more ridiculous than some of the ones we’ve covered. But the last one is, you can’t get pregnant during your period.

Céline Remy 16:37
We absolutely need to address this because it is a misconception.

Kevin Anthony 16:40
How many people have been burned by that one?

Céline Remy 16:45
So, okay, the chances of getting pregnant when you bleed are less, especially at the beginning of your cycle. However, if you are a woman who has a short menstrual cycle, anywhere from 21 to 24 days, and you bleed for like five to seven days, the 5- 6- 7 days are potentially fertile because sperm can leave inside the vagina for up to five days.

Kevin Anthony 17:18
Right. And so that’s the key is technically a woman is not capable of becoming pregnant while she’s bleeding. But what happens is the sperm can live inside for up to five days, which means if you ejaculate inside her towards the end of her period, when that ends and the fertile period begins, there could still be live little guys.

Céline Remy 17:38
Yes. So never use that as birth control. Okay, like just forget that that idea. That’s a misconception. So, now that we’ve dispelled some of those myths, let’s talk a little bit about why it’s a good time to have sex. Hmm.

Kevin Anthony 17:56
Isn’t it always a good time to have sex?

Céline Remy 17:58
It’s true. I want to talk about it from the women’s perspective. And then I think that Kevin, you could talk about it from the guy’s perspective, too. I know that for me, I have both that come up, I have I want to flock like it’s going to help me it’s going to help to release the cramping because, you know, it helps to alleviate cramping, it makes you in a better mood. If you have headaches, they can remove them.

Céline Remy 18:25
And then you know, orgasms will release anything like oxytocin endorphin dopa means all these hormones in your body that help you feel better, and can really reduce the pain. So when you think about that, it’s like, yes. So there’s the part of me that’s like, I want to have sex, this can help me as a healing thing to do. Rather than taking a painkiller, I’ll just stick in a penis inside the vagina.

Céline Remy 18:54
And we have a name for this.

Kevin Anthony 18:56
Yes, it’s called cockspirin.

Céline Remy 18:57
Thank you.

Céline Remy 19:00
I took a cockspirin, you know because it works way better for me. But anyway, so. Sometimes, I don’t want anything inside. I just want a few days of break, too. So it’s very interesting to stay in tune with what’s going on in your body. I think as a woman, it’s okay if you don’t want to be touched if you don’t want to be penetrated, then don’t. But if you do, do it, and pay attention, because maybe for a couple of days, you don’t want to and then you’re like really horny? And like, please go for it.

Céline Remy 19:40
Sometimes we might be thinking: “Hey, I mean, it’s not practical”, right? Because we’ll have to prepare maybe things a little bit more. And we’ll tell you at the end like how to do it and all of this. Or you might be worried what if it smells different? Because yes, it’s true, it does smell a little bit different because of it’s blood. But it’s all relative. I mean, if if you eat well, if you shower and stuff, it’s like it’s really not bad.

Kevin Anthony 20:11
It’s all about health. It really is, if you’re a healthy person, there’s no problem whatsoever. But you know, if you notice things are different, significantly different than you might want to take a deeper look at your overall health,

Céline Remy 20:24
So I am curious about what’s your experience, and maybe we could go way back to like the first time you had sex with a woman who was bleeding to even remember I even remember that.

Kevin Anthony 20:35
No, no, I don’t. You know, I would say I’ve been fortunate that most of the partners I’ve had in my life have not had a problem with having sex during their period. Most of them were perfectly fine with it. But I do know, some women tend to have much more difficult menstruation. So you know, they may not be as willing, I personally haven’t really experienced that most of my partners have been perfectly fine. So pretty much what I do is I just follow her lead.

Kevin Anthony 21:15
I see where she’s at, you know, and if she’s showing signs of, you know, being a little horny and wanting sex, then I’ll go along with that, if she’s showing signs of, I just want to curl up on the couch and read a book, then I just go with that. And there definitely are times, especially in a relationship where you get even hornier when you’re bleeding, then maybe some other days when you’re not bleeding.

Céline Remy 21:37
Absolutely. And I think it has to do with the circulation of the blood to it brings more blood flow, I think it kind of gives you like an internal massage, you feel more swollen, and there’s like I’m wanting a must do something about it. But I like what Kevin was saying about following her lead because sometimes I will want to have like very slow sex and mostly be held and are touched on massage.

And other times I will just really want to be pounded. Because it will help with the cramping or like getting the angry energy out. It’s like, oh, there’s like, Let’s fuck like crazy and pound. And then it’s like all out. And I’m like,

Kevin Anthony 22:19
Well, so this is one of the master skills in sexual mastery, which is following her lead. And so it’s not just when she’s breathing, it’s pretty much all the time, being able to be aware of what she needs when she needs it. Now, hopefully, she’s going to help you out with that she’s going to be giving you some pointers and some tips. And you know, like, Hey, this is what I’m in the mood for today, or this is what I would like, you know that that’s always great. And as a guide, do your best try to figure it out what she’s wanting or needing.

Kevin Anthony 22:51
So in this case, you know, the first thing is just deciding whether or not you’re even in the mood for sex. And then once you are then it’s trying to figure you’re out like you’re in the mood for today. So in general, you know, you start out kind of slow. Mm-hmm. You see how she responds to it, maybe you can increase a little bit. And then if she’s like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, then slow it back down again. If she’s just like, increasing along with you, then increase a little more.

Céline Remy 23:23
Absolutely.

Kevin Anthony 23:25
So until she’s begging you for doggy style.

Céline Remy 23:30
True story.

Céline Remy 23:33
And so you want to be prepared to since we’re talking about this, let’s finish with that. You want to have a towel underneath or a pad, we have a bleeding towel. That’s the one we take with us when we travel. And it’s just its one that I’m okay, it’s a darker color, it can be bled on with no problem. Yeah, well, there’s, there’s a towel, but there’s also a pad specifically designed for, I mean, you can get pads, you can get a towel, whatever you want.

So all of that are possible, but have something underneath because that way you just feel relaxed it’s not going to be all over you sheets, and it’s not going to have like, okay, now I’m having sex, now I have to do the laundry on top of that, you know.

Céline Remy 24:15
And then you know, I always say like, Hey, have wash clothes ready for afterward. Maybe have one for each. Because when she goes from standing from the bed, going to the bathroom or putting on her panties again like it could be more blood coming out. So you may not want to be dripping all over the floor. So just putting a little towel, low washcloth here while she can walk and then get cleaned like rain staff. And same with his penis, because sometimes there’s more or less blood. And you might be surprised. It’s certainly not that bloody at all. I mean, it depends, of course, on the day on the moment.

Kevin Anthony 24:52
And the woman

Céline Remy 24:53
Yeah. And so I think these are kind of like was everything that Kevin was mentioning earlier in terms of the rhythm of it and following her cues. I’d love to take the last five minutes of our episode to talk a little bit about the power of menstrual blood. Because this is not something that most people talk about

Kevin Anthony 25:13
the floor is yours.

Céline Remy 25:17
Well, you can always add some wisdom into it. But first of all, we have to remember that love is full of energy. It has what are called stem cells. You’ve probably heard of like stem cells, therapy, a negro so many things that can regrow organs by using the stem cells of different things. And so you can use your menstrual blood for more than just bleeding and discarding it into the toilet or whatever you do.

Especially if you use one of those cups and menstrual cups that can collect the blood, you can then give the blood to your pants. And as I do that you can give it to your garden I mean I’ve read lots of books and I’m going to get a little bit what will hear and so bear with me.

Céline Remy 26:05
But it says to that if you give that you plant or your garden then the plants which are intelligent can tell what are you deficient in terms of minerals or things and then I could like grow that some people say to put the seed in your mouth before you planted because it’s alive. That gives your DNA, your information while the blood does the same thing. And so I kind of like this symbiotic energy and relationship with my garden and with my houseplants.

That story about plans by the way hospital get lots of blood and so in one hospital they did that where they will use that and you dilute it before during they gave it to the plants and they saw growth like there was a difference in the growth of the plants

Kevin Anthony 26:52
You were doing this at your previous residence with your passion fruit.

Kevin Anthony 26:58
It was the most gigantic passion fruit vine. I have ever seen sprawl over the entire house was dropping multiple fruits a day like they were everywhere.

Céline Remy 27:10
And I was not just using my blood. I was also using my female ejaculate. Oh yeah, it was a combination of both.

Kevin Anthony 27:17
It was a super fun topic for another day.

Céline Remy 27:21
So according to the Taoist, they used to think that it was thought that a man could become immortal by absorbing menstrual blood. And whether or not you believe in that, you know, but and absorbing doesn’t mean specifically to drink it even though you could there are people who do that. There are recipes to put it into smoothies or cooking with it, if it’s your thing that we haven’t tried.

Kevin Anthony 27:50
We haven’t tried out for that way.

Céline Remy 27:52
No, but we know people who have and like it. So hey, if it’s your thing, give it a try and won’t kill you, that’s for sure. Absolutely and by absorbing with the penis, it’s just through the skin. So understanding that in ancient civilizations, or, like they used to understand the power of the blood more, and they used to use it, whoever was in ceremonies or seeing it like that. And there’s something special that happens in a woman when she’s bleeding.

Céline Remy 28:25
It says that both hemispheres of her brain, there’s like a bridge that happens and she has access to both hemispheres at the same time because usually, we have access to one or the other. Therefore, it makes it a really high spiritual and physical time for women. And some ancient texts claim that when a man makes love to a woman who is bleeding, it gives him access to different energy and he can be more in touch with his female energy and has the potential to feel what it feels like to be a woman while making love. So I don’t know, we’ve had lots of feared sex. I don’t know if you felt the difference.

Kevin Anthony 29:09
I told it all feel like a woman. Period. If, if anything, I would say that rather than saying it puts you in touch with what it feels like to be a woman. I would say that maybe it gives you a little bit more access to like your intuition. The feminine. Yeah. Which is often considered feminine. But no, actually I kind of feel like a man conquering as a woman. Oh, yeah. blood everywhere.

Céline Remy 29:36
Okay, well, there’s a scene there. Well, what the reason I wanted to share these was that there is so much more. And most women, they want to pretend that they’re not bleeding, they put a tampon they are they take the pill birth control, which totally stops their bleeding and creates a false bleeding that, like, it’s just when they stop the peel, there’s some bleeding that happens, but it’s not the true menstrual cycle anymore. And so there’s this whole idea that I have to be Superwoman.

Céline Remy 30:06
I have to never see it when I’m bleeding or tired more. And I have to pretend that I want to do the same activities. But actually you should, then this is a time where you can rest, where you can meditate, where you can have bigger insights, or you can prepare your entire month ahead. This is a time where you shed what no longer serves you throughout your body. This is where you get in touch with the cycle of life and death because it’s a literal death per se. So it gives you the opportunity to go through that. So that you can replenish new seeds and create new things in your life.

Céline Remy 30:39
And I think if you approach it from that perspective and if you make it a very sacred experience with your partner, where I invite you, you to make love with me or make love to me, while I’m bleeding. And this is a sacred encounter, it can really change and supercharge your sexuality and create such a deeper connection.

Kevin Anthony 31:00
And it’s like anything else in life, you can fight against what is or you can go with the flow,

Céline Remy 31:06
Literally,

Kevin Anthony 31:09
in this case, literally, right? But yeah, rather than trying to pretend you don’t have a period and try to stay in your masculine and get shit done. You could actually just embrace it, and then learn from the gifts that it brings you.

Céline Remy 31:24
And it is my experience that most men are very supportive. And the more woman gives to herself and say, Hey, I’m slowing down because I’m bleeding or she puts boundaries in the house and say, I’m not going to clean today, are we going to eat out or some somebody else wants to cook? You know, I’ve noticed that the men will step up and will be like, absolutely. Let me help you. How can I support you are like, yeah, mom’s bleeding.

So we all cleaning the house, you know, like, there’s a lot of examples that I’ve seen. And it all starts with you as a woman to say this is it. This is enough. This is my break.

Céline Remy 31:58
I’m going to educate everyone. So if you change this idea, having my moon time,  my period, my menstruation, however, you want to name it, I think, you know, I like my time because it’s more positive. You start to love that time. You start to create this environment and then you have this relationship with your partner where making love becomes healing where it can help with releasing your cramping and, and just helping you both feel more in tune with each other. I mean, I say yes to that.

Kevin Anthony 32:30
Yeah. So embrace it, go with it. Take whatever time you need. And if you’re feeling horny, go for it. Not only is there nothing wrong with it, but it’s actually good. All right, everybody. That’s all the time we have in this episode, and we will see you next week. We hope you liked this episode of the love lab podcast. If you enjoyed this show, leave a comment and share it with your friends.

Céline Remy 33:04
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