These Are The Qualities That Women Love In Men

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Kevin Anthony 0:28
All right, welcome back to the Love Lab podcast. This is episode 269. And it is titled, these are the qualities that women love in men. Now, I did an episode A while back somewhat similar to this, and I think I called it this is this is what women really want and men or something like that. I’ll have it linked in the description below. And that was really my take on what I thought women wanted from my own personal experience in my own relationships, and from being with Celine for so many years. This was a conversation we had a lot. It was something that she helped her clients with a lot, and of course, I help my own coaching clients with.

But today, I have a guest whom you can see with me in the studio and I’ll introduce in a moment. And she has her own take on this. And why I thought this was such a great episode to do is because you’re going to hear it straight from a feminine woman. What is it that she as a representative of women, and of course, she doesn’t speak for all women, but as as a representative of what most women want in men, you’re going to hear it straight from her mouth. And I think that this is a conversation that really needs to be had these days because there’s been so much backlash over the last few years towards men. There’s been so much pressure from society, where they are emasculating men looking down on their role, and making them look like buffoons and every TV show and movie that you see. And it’s not healthy. It’s not healthy only for men, but it’s not healthy for relationship dynamics. And it’s not healthy for society as a whole. So I think that this conversation is important in bringing balance back into this discussion about what does it mean to be a healthy man? And what is it that women are actually looking for in a healthy man? So that’s the discussion we’re going to have today. I think it’s going to be really interesting.

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Okay, so today I have with me, and I’m going to read from the paper here today, Karen, who is a writer and contact con contact content content creator, champions for a return to the traditional values that honor our inner nature as men and women she believes in celebrating the good in others, which she does through her storytelling. And most recently, her series of Instagram videos on the things I love and adore about men. Well, welcome to the show, Karen.

Karen Kaye 4:07
Thank you so much, Kevin. It’s an honor to be here.

Kevin Anthony 4:10
I’m happy to have you here in the studio. I don’t have too many guests physically in the studio these days. I do occasionally. But it’s great that you could actually come here. So we’re going to be talking today about things that you love in men. And I’m curious because this all started because you started doing some videos, which I saw on social media. And I absolutely loved what you had to say. I actually reached out to you and asked if would you be willing to come on the show and talk about this. Too, which you said yes. So how and why did you end up doing this series of videos? Could you explain to the audience what got you interested in this and why you felt like you needed to share it? How did this all come about?

Karen Kaye 4:58
Sure. So I had a friend a tango partner who started coming over to practice and we would go out and have dinner, as well. And I started noticing a pattern of when he would come over, he would do certain things. Or when we had dinner that were very impressive to me. And I, I woke up one day, and I said, you know, I need to talk about this because men’s spirits have been broken and beaten down so much over, I would say, the last few decades, actually. And I’ve definitely noticed that pattern. And I have been wanting to do something to help restore those broken spirits and men and to help uplift them. One morning, I woke up, and I thought, I need to share all of the things that this particular man was doing, that I felt was him going above and beyond that were very impressive. And so I shot that first video, actually, and it’s a story, you know, I can share a little bit as we go further down the show. And you had actually reached out to me shortly after I posted that first video. And that was when I knew that I was on to something.

Kevin Anthony 6:04
Well, I definitely think that you were on something because we were talking a little bit about this in the studio before everything hit record, right? But what I see, I’m paying attention to a broad range of media and people who are talking about all kinds of things, you know, whether it’s geopolitics or whatever. And what I see is yes, I see all of that sort of emasculating of men. And, you know, I mean, even like you said, decades, like going back into the 80s, Married with Children. Al Bundy was the big buffoon, right? Who was constantly being made fun of, yes, you see that in many, many, many TV shows and movies. The guy’s an idiot, he has no idea what he’s doing. He’s Homer Simpson, he’s Al Bundy whatever. And it’s always the women behind him who are fixing everything that he screws up, right. So there has been this pattern, this agenda of emasculating men for a long time, yes. But what I see when I look at, say the geopolitics or you know, the culture in general, is that the overwhelming majority of people, both men and women don’t believe that, and don’t see that as being right. And so they don’t have the voice that, you know, the media and Hollywood has. And they have a vested interest in showing men that way. So they have this giant megaphone, and they get to share their opinion all over the place.

But I don’t think that’s how most people feel. And that’s why I felt it was important to have this conversation and to bring you on the show, because I wanted to give a voice to what I think the majority of people in this country and outside this country, too. I mean, I’m somewhat closely connected to Europe, because I have a lot of family in Europe. So I kind of have an idea what’s going on over there, too, not nearly as well as what’s happening in the US, but I see that they value this more traditional masculine, feminine dynamic as well. And so I wanted to be able to give a voice to that. That’s why you’re here today. And I know that there’s probably going to be a bunch of people who are listening to this going, how can you not do and what about the things men love about women? Actually, I had that thought today, and I was like, I will do that show. I don’t know if I will do it next week. But I will do that show coming up based on my own thoughts of what I really love and value and appreciate about women. So we will have that conversation. So just calm down.

Karen Kaye 8:37
Yeah, and I do think it’s important for men to hear what women love and appreciate about men from a woman because they’re just not hearing it right now. You’re hearing a lot of people complaining and fussing over all the things that men are doing wrong. And I also think that unfortunately, a lot of women have begun to take men for granted and society and in the media has had very strong messaging about men’s value in society right now what men should be doing and should not be doing. And even men, there’s lots of videos on, you know, for men talking about what men should be doing to become better men. And I think that feels very corrective. And in some cases, very shaming, unfortunately, I wanted men to hear something from a woman that was really just focusing on the positives and all the beautiful and amazing things that they are doing everything that they’re doing that is right, that is needed and desired right now, we’re not hearing enough of that.

Kevin Anthony 9:31
I completely agree now, and I do want to state for the people listening, that this doesn’t mean that men are perfect, or that they’re infallible in any way. What we’re choosing to do here is focus on the positives because we want to encourage more of that and I agree, it’s best to hear it directly from a woman. So let’s, let’s just dive right in with number one. And these are 10 things that we’re going to go over today. These are sort of your headings and so I want you to explore what you mean by them. Because you wrote them? I didn’t say number one, men are easy to operate.

Karen Kaye 10:05
Yeah, I stand by this pretty pretty strongly. And Kevin, please tell me, let me know your thoughts on this. So in general, I have learned over the years that men really are pretty easy to operate. As long as you are clear, you’re direct, you’re open, you’re honest. If you just tell a man what you want, he will pretty much deliver it for you most of the time. Now, this isn’t 100%. foolproof, of course. But I find that men in general are easy to operate from that standpoint. Secondarily, I’ll tell a little story about a date that I had that really impressed me. The man had contacted me, and we met online. So he set up the date. And I was very impressed with how he set up the date. He picked out a fabulous restaurant. He arrived early, he sent me a text message letting me know when he was there, and you know how to find him. And so when I arrived, I was giving him active feedback. Oh, my goodness, thank you so much for showing up early. I love it when a man shows up early like this, your restaurant choices, are absolutely fantastic. I love this restaurant, I was just being very appreciative of everything he was doing. That was really working for me. So he was getting active feedback at the beginning of the day. And I noticed that that was sparking in him a continuation like you could see his energy building as he realized that he was being acknowledged and appreciated for things that most women would even call out, they won’t even notice it. Or they might not even say anything. So I was just appreciating everything he was doing. I noticed this throughout the time that we dated, that he would just do more of things that he knew that I would be appreciative of.

Kevin Anthony 11:45
Yeah, well, so as men, you know, we say all the time, we’re not mind reader’s right. Yeah. And we want to know that, see, this is the thing like, as a guy, if you were to just hand us the female manual, and say, Here you go, here’s where you go. Awesome. Great. Yeah, I’m gonna read this, because I don’t want to have to try to figure this all out. On my own. Yeah, right. So as men, getting that feedback really helps us know that what we’re doing is working, and we’re doing the right things. And we honestly, genuinely, you know, with few exceptions, like you know, the pickup artists crowd or whatever. But in general, regular men really do want to do what’s right, but not we want to do what makes you happy, we want to please you, we want to help you as best we can. And when you give us feedback that helps us do that. So, yes, and then to your point about men being easy to operate. You’re absolutely right. I say this all the time, especially to female clients when I’m working with them. I’m like, You’re overcomplicating it. We’re really not that complicated. We’re not women. Yes, women are complicated. Men, not so much. We’re pretty straightforward. We just need to know what to do.

Karen Kaye 13:01
Yeah. And I think that where I have failed as a woman in my relationships is where I have not been as clear and direct. And where I was hoping or expecting, the man would just do the right thing or would figure out what would really touch my heart or what would be important and valuable to me. So this is a hard lesson for me to learn. Now, I do recognize that learning how to be a young woman or feminine woman or masculine man is an art form. It’s something that takes time. And you can take a lifetime to develop what that means for you personally, and to refine it so that we can truly be the most effective partners for each other. But that was something that I’m starting to figure out. I’ve figured out later in life, and I’m still working on that.

Kevin Anthony 13:42
Most people operate from the point of view of everybody is just like me.

Karen Kaye 13:47
Yeah, right. That’s a mistake.

Kevin Anthony 13:49
Yeah, and we do it too. I have a guy friend who does the same thing all the time. He always assumes that however, he would do something or however he would like something is the way that I would do it or like it, which is actually rarely the case with the two of us. But women will do that too. Many women unless they’ve learned will assume that the man operates the same way that she does and will automatically know these things. Yet we operate completely differently. And we absolutely don’t know these things. Now, we can learn, right? As we go through life we have more relationships, maybe we’ve done some courses, and we learn how to interpret the signs and symbols, but that’s not always 100% foolproof, right? So the more that you can know what you want and then express it to us the easier it is for us.

Karen Kaye 14:40
And I find that with a lot of men, I can say something once and they will immediately make that change. Yeah, well, and it’s easy and you know if you tell a man hey, I love it when you open my car door. I love it when you escort me down the street in this manner. You know, you’re keeping me protected from sketchy things, you know, happening on this I’d walk than the man can extrapolate that to mean, oh, she likes it when I behave in a very traditional manner. And so he will continue to think and find more things that you can do that are traditional, that will opposite absolutely delight you.

Kevin Anthony 15:15
Yeah, you’re absolutely right. Most of us, when we hear that feedback, we’ll make corrections right away. Now, we might forget from time to time until it becomes a new habit, but we will, we will try, right? Every once in a while, you know, I have a friend who was dating this man for over a year, and she kept making certain requests over and over again. And he kept saying, yes, yes, yes. But then he would never actually do it. And they are not seeing each other anymore. But, they’re, I think they’re more of the outliers, most men will try at least even if they don’t get it right. Every time they’ll at least try to honor those requests.

Karen Kaye 15:52
I agree. And it’s good to just always give grace. Yeah. Never, never forget that. I think that’s a characteristic that we’ve lost sight of just the art of giving grace to another human being. This is a good place to do that.

Kevin Anthony 16:04
Okay, number two, they take care of the details. And you started to mention this with your story already, but elaborate on what you mean by that.

Karen Kaye 16:12
Yeah. So I’ll go back to my Tango partner, one of the first things when he first came over to, you know, do a little dance practice and go out to dinner, one of the things that he did when he walked in, he noticed that the trash was full. And so as we were walking out, we passed by that trashcan, and he said, Wait, hold on, I gotta take care of this. And he went and took the trash out. And I gotta tell you, I was really delighted that he did that it was such a mundane detail of me taking care of my home. And as a girl, I mean, yeah, I can take care of the trash myself. But there was something that really delighted me about him saying, Hey, I see something that needs to be taken care of. And he dealt with it. Another example of it, honestly, it’s like coming to the studio with you, when we had originally talked about doing the show, there was the option of doing it via Zoom or coming in the studio, I live close enough to come by. So I did. And I was curious as to like, okay, so what I need to do, you know, do you want me to show up early and help set things up or get things calibrated, and whatnot. And Kevin was just like, I’ve got everything taken care of all I need you to do is just show up, like everything is set up, all the details are already handled.

Kevin Anthony 17:17
Yeah. And that’s, I mean, from a guy’s point of view. And this is speaking mostly for myself, but I think it applies to most, I enjoy taking care of the details. And I know that some guys see that as, like, Why do I have to do all the work, right? I, what I want to really say is you need to reframe that it’s not you doing all the work, it’s you creating an environment that allows her to relax into her feminine because when she does that, she’s going to give back to you in more ways than you can possibly count or understand. But she can’t do that if she’s constantly worried about all the things that you’re not taking care of. And then she has to get into her masculine in order to take care of them.

A great example, just from my relationship with Céline, is we used to do a fair amount of traveling and camping trips. And literally, I would take care of everything, I would make sure we had all the gear, I would pack everything I would load the truck, the only thing that she had to take care of if we were going on a trip was the food because she was a big foodie and a big chef, and she loved to take care of that. So I said, Great, you just take care of you make sure that we’ve got everything we need, you know, to have amazing meals while we’re gone. And I will handle everything else. And she loved it. But here’s the funny thing. Before we were together, we were friends for a few years. And I always thought she hated camping. Like, I just the little bits and pieces I had heard from conversations or just like I thought she hated it. And when we got together I was like, man, it’s such a bummer. Because I love to go camping. And then one day we’re having this conversation. She’s like, No, I actually love camping. And I’m like, well then what was with all the things? She’s like, because of the partner I was with. He didn’t take care of the details. And it always became a burden for her to have to do all that. But once she was in a relationship where somebody was taking care of all those details, she loved it.

Karen Kaye 19:20
Yes, yes, I my my ex-boyfriend had an inflatable boat that we would take out and so anytime we would take it out there would be all these logistics and he got to inflate the thing and then attach all the the motors and the parts and all that stuff. And you know, we would bring a speaker and yeah, just sometimes bring food and whatnot. And so he was really good at you know, taking a process that has a lot of details and a lot of extra work just to get this boat out into the water. But he would make sure that he bought the speaker that the speakers were charged that he had, you know, the lifejacket and one for me as well. And so pretty much all I had to do was he showed up I got in the car and then once we got down to the water, he would really just take the lead and getting everything set up. And then I would be there to support and assist. And eventually, I learned how to do more and more of the process. So I could, you know, my role was to be the first mate, but I appreciated that he really was taking care of all of those mundane details that would have honestly just slipped my mind. And really all I had to do was just show up and enjoy being with him and support him and do whatever I could to make his job as easy as possible.

Kevin Anthony 20:28
Yeah, and, you know, again, I’m offering the men who are listening a reframe here, which is Don’t think of it as you have to do all the work. Think of it as you are creating the space for her to be able to relax into her feminine. And believe me, it’s going to come back to you in ways that are far more important to you than the fact that you had to spend an extra 20 minutes loading the car.

Karen Kaye 20:53
Yeah, and I really would make sure that I was I was also the person who always, you know, prepared all the food for the boat, and I make sure that he had enough sunscreen on him. So it allowed me to really put a focus on him to make sure that he was also provided for as well in ways that were meaningful to him as well.

Kevin Anthony 21:12
Absolutely. Okay. So number three, being the hero.

Karen Kaye 21:18
Oh, yeah. Okay, so I have a fun little story about this. And so a friend of mine, we went out for dinner one night, and we were sitting next to a table with a group of ladies. At one point during the dinner, there was some commotion, ladies got very excited. And turned out there was a huge spider web and a big spider hanging right over, their patio table right over their dinner. And so the ladies got very excited, as everyone was trying to figure out what to do. And the guy that I was with, figured out immediately what was happening. He jumped up, grabbed a napkin took care of the spider, disposed of it, sat back down, and we continued our dinner. When he did this, the entire table just like exploded like he was the hero of the day. And the interesting part of the story was that before he had got up, there was another man who had stood up, I think he might have been with the group of ladies. And he had stood up and he was standing there. And he was kind of just staring at the spiderweb and trying to figure out what to do with it. And the guy that I was with noticed that that guy wasn’t doing anything. And he saw what the problem was. And he just immediately stepped up and dealt with it. And it took him like what three seconds to do this. And it made him a hero for this group of ladies. I think there are lots of things that men can do that take very little effort or very little time that can actually kind of save the day for somebody or just save the moment for another person.

Kevin Anthony 22:45
Yeah. And I think one of the important points to sort of reiterate what you’ve already mentioned here is that when a woman says she wants you to be her hero, she’s not asking you to be Superman. Yeah, she’s not asking you to fly in from the sky and destroy the bad guy, necessarily, but it’s the little thing and possibly, I would like that, but but not necessarily right. Like, because that’s, you know, guys like Oh, hero, like what do I got to do? Like, go enlist in the military and start, you know, shooting the baguette? No, it’s the little things like, literally taking care of a spider could make you a hero. Now obviously, if you were in a situation where you needed to defend her physically, she would want you to be the hero there too. But don’t think that that is always the expectation. You could be the hero by taking out the trash.

Karen Kaye 23:35
Yes. Yeah, the other favorite thing I have. And this happens to me, every single time I get on a plane, I hate to admit it, but I always pack way too much. But I’m convinced that I can just put my suitcase up in that overhead compartment. I can never do it by myself. So I’m coming down the aisle, and I get to where my seat is. And I look up and I start getting nervous and everyone around me can see me because my eyes are looking wide. I’m not looking confident at all. The line is backing up behind me. And I gotta tell you, every single time this situation happens, there is a man who sees me. And he jumps up and he takes care of it for me. And in that moment he is being my hero. He is kind of saving me from trying to awkwardly because trust me, it never goes well. Like when I’ve attempted it. It’s looking really sketchy, right? So it can literally just take a few seconds and be something so small that the man will completely forget about it later, but the woman will be like, Oh my God, thank you so much. You saved me.

Kevin Anthony 24:31
Yeah, you know. So I’ve actually done that on airplanes numerous times for elderly ladies or you know, even younger ladies who are either too short or their suitcases too heavy, whatever it is. And the way I always looked at it was and I’ll use an example so I had a I had a friend who I won’t say his name because he’s he’s very well known and very involved in in political circles and things like that. But he was over one day and he is a friend of Céline and I, and we were talking about (this is before I was even doing this coaching work stuff) and one day he looks at me and he says, if you have knowledge that can help people, and you don’t share it, you’re an asshole. Yeah, that’s literally what he said. I agree. And so I say that as an example, because like using your plain story, it’s like, here’s somebody who maybe doesn’t have the strength necessary to do this. But I do. It’s super easy for me. Yeah. Like, I can easily just pick that thing up. It’s almost no effort for me whatsoever. And honestly, I would be an asshole not to lend the skills that I have to someone who doesn’t have them.

Karen Kaye 25:48
Yes, yes, I completely agree. I have an ex-boyfriend, who he did this all the time when we would be out. If you ever saw someone who looked like they needed help. Like maybe we would be walking by someone who was trying to load something really bulky and heavy and awkward into their car. And he would just jump up and say, Hey, let me help you with that. He saw someone who needed help carrying something heavy or needed assistance, even if it was simple things like just holding the door for them. As they were trying to, you know, get five kids through the door, whatever.

Kevin Anthony 26:17
So here’s an interesting thing about that is, okay, we’re talking about the masculine, feminine dynamic. Yeah. But let’s, let’s zoom out a little bit. Sure. How much better would life be? If everybody operated in that mode?

Karen Kaye 26:36
I completely agree.

Kevin Anthony 26:37
I don’t know how old you are. I don’t want to make any assumptions. But I know I personally am old enough to remember when life was like that.

Karen Kaye 26:45
Yeah, we’re the same age actually. You’ve mentioned your age on other podcasts. Yeah, I’m in the same place.

Kevin Anthony 26:56
I didn’t want to make any assumptions. I have a lot more gray going on. But I am old enough to remember when life was like that. I’m old enough to remember when you know, you were out in your driveway, fixing your car, and your neighbor would come over and stick his head under the hood and say what’s going on? Do you need some help? Let me roll up my sleeves and get greasy with you. That was normal. And we’ve lost that in our society. And here’s the thing, your relationships are not isolated from the rest of life and the world, right? So if you’ve fixed this dynamic in your relationship, then you’ll notice that you start doing these things outside of your relationship, which will be affecting the world as a whole in a positive way. Same thing in reverse. If you were to just start doing those things, say in your work relationships and your friend relationships, you’d probably notice that you start doing them in your personal relationships as well. So this is so much bigger than just how we relate with one another. It really expands into how we relate to the world itself.

Karen Kaye 28:00
And I want to mention something here too, that women love being with the hero. So when you are with a man who is helping out whether it’s another man or a woman or an elderly person, when you are the woman who that man is coming back to it, it delights us. I mean, it makes me feel so proud to be with the man who is the man who’s stepping up, not the man who’s standing there trying to figure out like, Oh, what do I do with a spider man who just steps up and gets it done? I absolutely love that. I’ve had lots of ex-boyfriends who have behaved in that manner. And it makes me incredibly proud to have that man. Be my vice my side.

Kevin Anthony 28:39
Yes, you know, I’ll add one last thing on the hero. And then we have to move on, I got a lot more to cover the show. But, you know, this was something that was really near and dear to Céline’s heart, this idea of the man being the hero. One of the things that she used to do, and this is a suggestion to all the ladies who are listening to this show Céline used to go out of her way to create opportunities for me to be the hero. So this is different than the way I see a lot of women operating in society nowadays. And nowadays, what I see a lot of women do is sort of challenging and, and creating scenarios that make it difficult for us to step up meaning like the perfect example would be, you know, something happens and no matter which one we choose, we’re wrong. Right? And you hear this from guys. Doesn’t matter what I do. If I do this, I’m wrong. If I do that I’m wrong. Right? So they create a lot of no-win situations where what Céline used to do all the time, was create situations where I had the opportunity to step in for the win and show up and be the hero. So I am suggesting to you ladies that if you want your man to be a hero, help him create some sort to give him opportunities that allow him to really step up. Do it.

Karen Kaye 30:01
Yeah, this isn’t so much of a hero thing. But this is something that I personally love. I love it when a man comes after we park the car, he gets out. I love it when he comes around and opens up the car door to escort me out of the car. Every man I’ve dated for the last 15 years has done this. So I will, in fact, stay put until the man comes to collect me. But part of why I like this is because in a way, it feels like he’s my hero coming to get me. Yeah, it there’s something very delightful about that. And it gives him an opportunity to delight me every single time we go anywhere. And I never I always say I never take away a man’s opportunity to do something to make me happy or to delight me. And so yes, I can’t get myself out of the car. It has been proven to occur one or two times in the past. But I honestly I love the way the man looks as he comes over. He sees how delighted I am that he’s about to open the door and escort me out of the car. It’s almost like he’s opening up his very favorite Christmas present every time he comes to get me.

Kevin Anthony 31:03
Yeah, you know, that’s something that prior to being with Celine I would do occasionally. But for for whatever reason when we got together, I just started doing it every single time. And I just talked about earlier, the feedback and how that inspires us to keep doing these things. Seeing the reaction that she would have to that made me go okay, this is a thing. So I started to do this every single time. And I have continued to do that. Even for others. It doesn’t even matter whether it’s my mom, or, you know, just friends that you know, we might be traveling somewhere together and they’re female. I always open the car for any woman that is in my car. And every single one of them has that same reaction exact, I have not found a single woman yet who was like, when you open the car door they light up with a smile and they love it.

Karen Kaye 31:59
Absolutely. And when other men see men do this, I think they have a reaction to wow, that’s a really classic thing. And so again, we love being with a man who’s treating us with class. That’s very impressive to us.

Kevin Anthony 32:14
If you’re not treating your woman with class, you’ve got a real problem. I mean, seriously, there’s nothing else in this world worth treating with class more than your woman. Okay, next one, their sense of duty.

Karen Kaye 32:29
And this kind of ties into this last story about the spider. So after that happened, my friend told me that he’s actually afraid of spiders, like they really creeped him out. Like he does not want anything to have to do with spiders. And apparently, I don’t know if this is true. But I have been told that this is actually a very common fear that men have a lot of men really hate spiders. So even though he doesn’t like spiders at all, they’re completely creepy to him. As soon as he realized that there was a problem that involved a spider, he jumped up and dealt with it anyway. And to me, this speaks to a man’s sense of duty. I see this all the time when men don’t want to do something, or it scares them. Or there’s something about it, that’s problematic. But even in this case, with the spider, it was 100% optional for him to have jumped up and dealt with it at all, he could have just averted his eyes and kept eating his enchiladas. Like there was no reason to have gotten involved. But he saw that there was a problem that needed to be done. And he his sense of duty, stepped up and said, someone’s gotta take care of this. I’m gonna do it.

Kevin Anthony 33:28
Yeah, you know, this kind of goes back also to the example I used earlier with my friend who said, If you have knowledge and information that can help people, you’re an asshole for not sharing it. It’s like, that’s a sense of duty, which is like, I have something here that could help people. And so yeah, that, you know, I’m well aware that you and pretty much any other woman, and I was well aware that Céline was capable of taking out the trash, so she didn’t like taking out the trash. I don’t mind taking out the trash. Now, of course, it worked both ways for us, right, because I absolutely hate vacuuming. I hate it. I don’t know why I just really despise it. And she liked vacuuming. She didn’t mind vacuuming. So she did the vacuum. I took out the nasty, smelly trash and scooped up the dead animals in the backyard and like, did all of those things because they didn’t bother me. But they did her right. So this idea of like, when we say duty people have this weird reaction to that word like, oh, somehow I’m obligated. Why do I have to be the one to do it? Because you can write because you can because it’s easier for you than it is for her. And that’s your sense of duty, at least to some extent.

Karen Kaye 34:46
Absolutely. And I think that can expand to a variety of other things over last year. I had a lot of home remodeling work done and so I’d always talk to these contractors and I oftentimes would ask them so do you like doing this work and a lot of times the guys who say well, it’s not really like fun or easy. I mean, it’s, it’s very tiring, it’s, you know, physically demanding work, and, but they always say the same thing that it allows them to provide for their family. And so there’s a sense of duty and taking on a job that is dirty and gritty. And that is very difficult. But they do it because they want to provide for their family, and they want to give their children and their spouses a life that they can be proud of.

Kevin Anthony 35:30
Yeah, and I think a lot of people underestimate how difficult that one particular duty you just mentioned is I remember my dad when I was really young. I don’t remember the exact conversation we were having. But it you know, it’s trying to motivate a young person, like, get out there and do what needs to be done. And I remember him saying to me, you think I want to get up every day and drive, drive an hour and a half to work and work all day, and then drive an hour and a half home? It’s like, but I do what I got to do. And I remember thinking in that moment, I’m never gonna do that. Not that not I’m never going to do what needs to be done. I’m never going to do it the way he’s choosing to do it. But I bring that up as an example to show that, you know, that’s another famous line. Most people don’t like what they do for a living. Like, you’ve heard that many times, I’m sure your parents told you that too. When you were younger, and working some crappy job, you didn’t want to be working. But the reality is, is true. Most people don’t actually really love what they do every single day like those contractors that you’re speaking of. Yes. But men do feel an obligation, especially when they’re married and have families to go out and do it, because that’s what needs to be done.

Karen Kaye 36:45
Yes. Even maybe somewhat related to this I was talking to a guy and he mentioned that he works out every day at five in the morning. And I thought, wow, that’s got to be really rough. And, and he said, Yeah, but you know, it’s it needs to be done. The fact that men can, can embrace that level of discipline, to it’s never easy for them to wake up at five o’clock in the morning. I’ve never met again, a guy who’s like, oh, yeah, this is super easy. I love doing this. But they will wake up at five o’clock in the morning because that’s the time when they feel is their best hour to get in a good solid, dedicated workout. And they do it every day. That’s amazing to me. I know a lot of women who we tend to flow more with our feelings, our emotions, our mood, like I just don’t want to do it right now. And so then we don’t. But for a man, that’s that’s not really an option for a lot of men, they have a sense of duty of just doing what needs to be done.

Kevin Anthony 37:39
Indeed we do. Okay, next one. Number five, failure is not an option.

Karen Kaye 37:47
Yeah, this is kind of a fun one that I like. So I am notorious for if I’m at home, and maybe I’m making something and I have a jar and I’m struggling to get that thing open. I’ll just go stand outside and wait for a man to walk by and ask him if he would if he would be willing to help me open that jar. And, you know, those are usually easy things, right? But I did have a situation once where I had like a flashlight where I needed to change the batteries, I was actually going on a camping trip. And I needed to change out the batteries. And I couldn’t get the flashlight open. So I took it with me to work. And I handed it to one of the guys in a nearby department. I said, I don’t know what’s why I can’t figure out how to get the flashlights and the batteries off this flashlight, said don’t worry, I’ll take care of it. And about five hours later. He called me and he explained that the good news was he got the batteries out the bad news was that the flashlight had been corroded or the batteries had corroded. And so it was like, it took like three guys to figure out how to open up the flashlight and get the van so the flashlight got destroyed. But for them, they knew that I needed to get those batteries out and they were going to figure it out and make it happen no matter what. And I have found that that characteristic when a man commits to doing something if he says yep, I’m gonna do this for you. He is going to make it happen. And I love that characteristic about it.

Kevin Anthony 39:07
Yeah, you know, I have been guilty of that a few times to where somebody asked me for something really simple. And then it turns out to be way more involved. Yeah, but you just keep going. Yeah, cuz you’re just Oh, no, no, I’m gonna figure this out. We’re gonna we’re gonna make this happen. Hold on, and I’ve had them. No, no, it’s okay. I say no, no, I got another idea. Let’s keep going until we solve this. Yeah, that is, that is definitely something that we do as men. And if you’re listening, man, I just want you to hear what she just said there, which was, even though the flashlight in the end was done. The fact that they put so much effort into solving that problem was something she really appreciated. And this just kind of tag teams with this idea of sort of keeping your word like when you say you’re going to do something you actually follow through and do it. Right You know, so for instance, If he had taken it and tried it and couldn’t get it off, and 10 minutes later said, Well, I would say, I don’t know it doesn’t whatever. Like, would you have felt the same way about him in the effort he put in? Absolutely not.

Karen Kaye 40:11
Yeah, I wouldn’t be telling this this story today. It doesn’t make for a great story. But I will tell you that even things with like the jars, I’ll never forget this one kid, I went outside, and it’s like a jar of pasta sauce or something. And I handed it to him. And you know, he couldn’t get it first. And he just like, you know, he was a little frustrated that he couldn’t get it open and hit one point because the kid was like, 14 years old, he just like, threw down his backpack. And he was like, he’s like, I’m gonna get this. And so he eventually got it open for me. And he hands it back to me. I’m a fuse of little like, super appreciative, I let him know this. And as I’ll never forget, like seeing him pick up his backpack, and put it back on. And the way he strutted down that state was like he had saved it was the hero thing. He was my hero that day. And so he, he didn’t give up, he made it happen. Yes, it was just a jar of pasta sauce. But the way he was walking, when I first saw him was drastically different than the way he walked away from me. And that was because I gave him an opportunity to do something to help me and to be successful. And he nailed it.

Kevin Anthony 41:16
Well, that’s a good young man, he actually took care of it. And he stuck with it until he made it happen.

Karen Kaye 41:22
Yeah, he probably went home and was like, what else can I do lady?

Kevin Anthony 41:26
Makes me feel just a little bit more hopeful for the future.

Karen Kaye 41:30
Because I do think too many people give up. And I will say that it’s also inspiring for me when I see the ethic that men demonstrate whether it is, you know, going to work out every morning at five o’clock, or whether they are just persistent until they figure something out, or whether it is how they creatively come up with alternative solutions and figure out how to get something fixed. That’s also very inspiring and motivating for me as well. And so I really appreciate that I get to kind of learn from how that man’s mind works. So that at a later time, if I ever need to employ those skills, I have the right there to draw from.

Kevin Anthony 42:06
All right, so we have been through the first five we’re getting a little low. So we’ll go a little faster the next group but gotta do a short break, and then we’ll jump back in. Hey, guys, you know what makes a man great, you know, the kind of masculine man that women are irresistibly attracted to? Is it money, job title, this physical body being great in bed, a big penis, great pickup lines, what if you don’t have those, or you only have some of them? What if you’ve had a string of failed relationships are embarrassed by your bedroom skills, doubt whether you can rise to the occasion worry about lasting long enough or are always stuck in the friend zone? I can help you if you’re ready to make big changes and finally become the man you have always wanted to be, then this is the program for you to find out more, please go to KevinandCéline.com/go/warrior. The link is in the description. That is KevinandCéline.com/go/warrior. I suggest if you are not already the man that you want to be you start by rewinding this episode and listening to the whole thing again, because because you’re getting the playbook here.

Karen Kaye 43:07
Absolutely, absolutely.

Kevin Anthony 43:09
Okay, so let’s keep going. Number six, is the way they protect women and others.

Karen Kaye 43:15
This is a huge one for me. Oh my goodness, yeah. It’s taken me some time to realize that men actually see the world differently than women do. I was just as an example, I was at a country bar with an ex-boyfriend. And at one point as the night got a little later, some people had entered the bar. And he had been watching them keeping an eye on them. And one point he felt that these people were being a little sketchy. And so he wanted to leave. And so he came up to me and grabbed my hand. And he said we’re leaving right now. And I kind of fast I was like, why I was like, I’m having a great time like this my favorite site. I don’t want to go. Nice to know we’re leaving right now. And at that time, I knew him well enough to know that he had a really good sense for these kinds of things. And so while I’m sitting there, and this is what I do, anytime I go out and just hey, oh, look how beautiful this place was decorated? Oh, look, that person is so great. Oh, look how cute her dress is, I’m just enjoying the food or the ambiance of people. And meanwhile, the man that I’m with is probably enjoying and recognizing those things as well.

But he’s also keeping an eye out for anything that could be weird, or sketchy. I was talking to a guy recently and I noticed that at this particular venue, he was he just stayed stationed in this one space, this one particular spot. And I eventually realized that from that place, he had a vantage point that gave him a 180-degree view of everything happening, he could see anyone who was entering anyone who was leaving. And so he was just keeping an eye on the entire space to make sure that nothing sketchy or weird was going on. And these are things again that you know, men do these things naturally women do not. And if there ever was anything sketchy that was happening, I could feel very confident that the man would pick up on it and let address it whether it meant We are exiting the situation or he is moving us to a different part of the space, and so forth. I think that’s incredibly valuable.

Kevin Anthony 45:08
Yeah, this is absolutely something I do all the time. I mean, I don’t walk into a place without immediately scanning everything that’s happening. Who are the people? Where are the exits? What’s going on in here? I mean, people will say, Oh, you’re paranoid. It’s not about being paranoid, it’s just about being aware of your situation, I have spent decades of my life training in multiple forms of martial arts, weapons training, and firearms use. And the one thing that is always driven home, and every single one of those is what we call situational awareness. Yeah, being aware of what’s happening around you. And you would be amazed at how many situations you can avoid, just by being aware of what’s happening and removing yourself from the situation before it turns into an issue. And so, so many times, there’s a couple of great YouTube channels out there, where they, they show it’s usually like security camera footage, or something of, you know, attacks or shootings, or, you know, all that kind of stuff. And he said, Why would you want to watch that, because the point is, they’re teaching you what to look for, what to pay attention to. And you see, if you watch enough of those, you will see that the overwhelming majority of bad situations people get themselves into could have been avoided if they were simply paying attention.

Karen Kaye 46:26
Absolutely, absolutely. And when I’m walking down the street, and a man is watching everything that’s coming up in front of us, you know, whether it’s sketchy people or, you know, he, he’s actively moving me so that he is, he has me on the inside, you know, so he’s on the street side, and so forth. He’s putting himself between me and anything that looks sketchy or suspicious or dangerous. That makes me feel very, very protected. Sometimes I don’t always recognize what he is doing. But when I do, I just feel so incredibly safe, I feel relaxed, I can just, instead of focusing on what’s going on around me, and me watching me having to take on the burden of this situational awareness, I can just appreciate the man that I’m with, I can just focus on him, and allows me to be in that super relaxed feminine energy that I love so much.

Kevin Anthony 47:15
That’s interesting. You mentioned being on the inside, like when walking down the street. So I have a neighbor up the street, he’s in his mid-80s by now. And Celine and I used to walk every single morning and we would always see him because he’d be in his garage when we would walk past. And I used to so we always used to like to be me on the right her on the left is kind of the sort of masculine, feminine dynamic, but I have a certain direction in the street that puts her on the outside. And so, so one day, our neighbor kinda like, you know, called me out on. It’s like, she shouldn’t be on the inside, you know, and you know, he’s old school this is and, and to some extent, I knew he was right. But I had a little bit of an issue with it.

My issue was this. I’m right-handed. I conceal carry with my gun on the right side. My thought process in that moment was, that if I’m holding hands with my right hand, I can’t draw. And even if I’m not, if I draw, I’m gonna draw and sweep my partner, right? I’m gonna muzzle sweep her, which is exactly what I don’t want to do. Yeah, so that was my thought process at that moment. Like, I need to be able to draw in a situation and I don’t want to muzzle sweep my wife. But he was right. And he brought that to my attention. I thought, well, how can we remedy this situation? Okay, go to the other side of the street and walk up on the other side of the street. So I’m on the outside and my right hand is still free. Yeah. And interestingly enough, I actually did a little research on that at the time and found that one of the reasons why it’s very traditional for the man to be on the right and the woman to be on the left, aside from the whole their right side is your masculine is that you know, besides that it was actually very practical in the days of swords. You drew your sword with your right hand. Absolutely. So, okay, number seven, the way they compliment us?

Karen Kaye 49:10
Yeah, this sounds pretty simple. What I’ve learned with men, and you have to tell me if I’m onto something here, but I feel like a man doesn’t. Men don’t say what they don’t mean. And so when they do compliment you, it is a legit compliment. Now, this is, of course, yeah. Not including men who are just kind of playing games with you. And they’re trying Yeah, they have some weird intentions. But I truly do believe that for most men, their intentions and their actions are coming from a good place. And so a man may not be overly complimentary to you, but when he is it carries real weight. I had an ex-boyfriend who every time he came to pick me up to go out whether we were going paddleboarding or going out to dinner or to watch some live music or go dancing. You know, he would enter the house on his own and then I would be upstairs and I would make the So this big descent down the staircase, and the way he would look at me and receive me as I came down that staircase made me feel like I was the most exquisite, majestic thing he had ever seen in his life. And that made me feel so incredibly beautiful, just that it felt so legit to me, that he was very deeply affected by my effort to look good for him every single time I came downstairs.

Kevin Anthony 50:28
Yeah, as a man, I completely agree with you that if we say it, we mean it. And I’ll add to that, I’ll take it a step further and say that the words we say, are the actual words that we mean. Yeah, meaning you don’t have to dissect it and try to interpret it and figure out the meaning behind it. Because as we said, In the beginning, we’re easy to operate. Right? Which means that what we say is what we mean in general. Yeah. Now, here’s where we do struggle as men, where we struggle is we don’t always voice those things. But that doesn’t mean we’re not thinking of them. And so my advice to the men is, when you see her come down the staircase, and it flashes in your mind, she looks really beautiful. Say it, don’t just think it even, I’m actually pretty good at this. I voiced these things a lot. But even sometimes I catch myself. You know, it actually happened recently. I don’t even remember what it was. And the woman said something. And I was like, you know, I totally thought that. And for whatever reason, it just didn’t make it out of my mouth.

Karen Kaye 51:36
That’s a pain point. That’s a pain point for me, for sure. I definitely wish men would vocalize more. And I have, this is something where, again, going back to the very first point, and men are easily off, right? If you tell a man, hey, I love hearing these things. Men will typically do a better job of being more vocal with it. We just think it says it.

Kevin Anthony 51:57
We just haven’t been trained as men to vocalize things like this. We just haven’t you know, it’s somewhat related to the whole don’t talk about your feelings kind of thing. You know, it’s like when we see you come down the stairs. And we feel this like thing right here. We’re like, oh my god, she’s so beautiful. I can’t believe she’s actually going out with me kind of thing, which is like something that will go through our minds, you know, but we’re not taught to really feel it to really own it into vocalize it. And so that’s something as men that we just need to work on.

Karen Kaye 52:26
So ladies, I would say that if you want to get more of these compliments, one of the things that you can do is when a man does compliment you take the time to tell him not just don’t don’t just say thanks. But say thank you, and then explain why that compliment was so valuable for you. So if he says, Wow, you look absolutely stunning today say Oh, my goodness, thank you so much. It means so much for me to hear that because, you know, I put a lot of effort into making sure that, you know, I look good for you tonight. So it really touches me that you appreciate what you say. But tell them why their compliments are so important to you. I’ve heard it said that you know, you can compliment a man once in a lifetime, and that will last him. But a woman wants to be complimented every day. And women get flooded with a lot of what I would call kind of fake or insincere compliments. You know, women will just say, Oh, you look so cute. Oh, you look good. Even if they don’t they say just to be nice. Sometimes. You know, I see this a lot. And men typically give only truly sincere compliments. And so that’s why for me, they carry so much weight.

Kevin Anthony 53:35
Yeah, women towards other women will often say a lot of things. And in the back of their mind, they’re thinking God that looks terrible. Men don’t do that. Many men will either not say anything at all. Or if they say anything in general that’s pretty true. I agree. Okay. Number eight, they do the hard jobs that make life livable.

Karen Kaye 54:00
Yeah, all I’m saying on this one. I know we’re close on time here. So I’ll make it short. But honestly, on this one is that when you look at a lot of these jobs, like roofers, the people who are working on those electrical poles that keep our businesses and our homes up and running, plumbers, plumbers, electricians, even you know, we live in Southern California, so we probably don’t see a lot of this but there’s like miners and loggers and other people who are working in our sewage system, there are people trash collectors, I noticed that all of the these, these roles are performed by men. And I know people say well, there are women who could go into these jobs. Yeah, and maybe they do but in my experience from what I have seen of women who have gone into either the police academy or the Fire Academy, they typically don’t stay very long, but men will make a lifelong career out of this and they do even though the job is not fun is not easy. It is dirty. It is hard on their bodies physically. They are wearing their bodies out there putting themselves into dangerous situations. Don’t forget people who work on electric poles, there are a lot of deaths and mortalities that occur from doing that type of work in that these men are signing up and making these job, their jobs, their careers. Basically, the bottom line on this is the fact that men do these jobs. It makes our lives livable. Imagine if we didn’t have any men who were doing these jobs. What would your life be like? I mean, I had my AC installed last year, and I had to be hauled overhead through a small compartment in my attic. I can’t imagine women showing up and doing that labor.

Kevin Anthony 55:35
Yeah, so you know, are there some women that do those jobs? Absolutely. So we’re not saying that women aren’t capable of doing these things. But I can tell you, the overwhelming majority of women in this world do not want to do these things. They don’t. Because if they did, they’d be signing up to go do it. And you’re right in professions like that. They are overwhelmingly men that are doing these things. And yeah, they are willing to do a lot of the dirty-ass jobs that nobody wants to do, because somebody has to do it.

Karen Kaye 56:08
Yeah, it’s that sense of duty once again. So if you’d like the fact that your car is running, and your home has, you know, got remodeled and you have a working roof and electricity and plumbing and all that good stuff, you probably have a man to thank for that.

Kevin Anthony 56:24
Indeed. Okay, number nine, how they show respect for others.

Karen Kaye 56:29
Okay, this story actually just happened to me last week, and I love it. I was out at a dance studio and started chatting with a young guy. As we progressed in a conversation at one point, I said all I said, By the way, what’s your name, and he immediately removed his hat and then shook his hand and introduced himself. And I was absolutely floored because he removed his hat, which is something that we don’t see men do anymore. And so he was just wearing a baseball hat. So I immediately complimented him on this and said, Well, I’m so impressed that you would remove your hat. And he said, Well, yeah, if he hadn’t done that, his friends would have come over and smacked his hat off of his head and said, What are you doing? You’re being disrespectful.

Kevin Anthony 57:09
He’s got good friends.

Karen Kaye 57:11
He’s got some amazing friends. And so there’s two parts of the story that I love one that he was, you know, staying true to a traditional part of social etiquette that has been long lost. But I also appreciate it that his friends would have been willing to, even though they might have done it directly, I think it’s fine to do it discreetly after the fact as well. But we’ve called him out and said, Dude, you’re being disrespectful, we need to do better. So I appreciate that. Whether it’s something as simple as that type of etiquette, or even just opening doors for someone you’re offering to help that men definitely have a, a tradition or an ethic of just being very respectful to women and other men.

Kevin Anthony 57:53
Well, they should I hope they do. And you know, he was right. We wouldn’t wait for him to finish the interview over there, knock that hat off his head. It’s just kind of the way we are as men. But yeah, I mean, you should be showing respect for them. You should be showing respect for everybody. But certainly, especially you should be showing respect for the women in your life. So yeah. Okay, the last one, which is almost perfect timing. Yes. They’re willing to fight, defend, and take a stand.

Karen Kaye 58:23
Yeah, this is you know, even to your earlier point about having a CCW I think that’s something that is very impressive that men are willing to go through the training and the process of getting licensed to do that. I know it’s a bit of a process. But it is here in California, it isn’t. But there there’s something about men when they have high standards, and they have strong principles. And when they are unwavering in this, the reason this is so impressive to me is because a man who has high standards and solid principles is a man I can trust. I have found that men who have those values are someone who I can feel completely relaxed around because I know exactly who he is, as a man, I know that things like his loyalty to me will never be compromised. Why? Because he has standards and, and principles that don’t allow for that. So this is something that I noticed repeatedly with men where they say I’m not okay with that, or that’s not okay, or this is my boundary. And those men, to me are absolutely phenomenal in my eyes.

Kevin Anthony 59:25
Here’s something that I’ve experienced recently that I’ve found to be interesting, and that I’ve really appreciated, which is that, you know, when Céline and I were together, I knew exactly how she felt about you know, guns and protection and that sort of thing. And I knew she was totally on board with all of that stuff. But outside of that, you know, now that she’s not here anymore. The reality is, is that we live in Southern California. Yeah. And you know, if you’re listening outside of you know, you live somewhere that’s not in California or say not in New York City. You know what I mean? Most of the country looks at California like we’re a bunch of whack jobs and crazy people. Because there’s a lot of truth to that. But, the reason I bring that up is because I have, I was unsure how other women would react to the fact that I do carry. And so you know, there were times where maybe at first I didn’t bring it with me, because it’s like, I don’t want to end up having that conversation right now, or whatever.

But here’s what I found. I have found that overwhelmingly, even women that I thought, for sure, were going to be anti-gun, hippie types have all appreciated the fact that I do carry and so I’ve gotten more comfortable now around other women being okay. It is not a problem. Now, honestly, anybody that did have a big problem with it isn’t somebody that I would really want to date anyway. But you don’t know when you’re just meeting people, and you’re getting to know them, like, you know, what, how is she going to react with that? And I’ve been pleasantly surprised that the few women that have that I’ve either spent time with or even talked about it with have been like, Oh, that’s really cool.

Karen Kaye 1:01:14
Yeah, there’s a tremendous responsibility to having that CCW. And I have found that men who do really do take that very seriously. And they really know that that is going to be a last resort for them. And they are prepared to do everything up to, you know, having to resort to that. So there’s something there where, again, it goes back to having those strong principles and standards.

Kevin Anthony 1:01:38
Yeah, you know, there’s an interesting just speaking about CCW in general. So they’ve done some studies on this, because whenever there are gun violence problems, the first thing any politician wants to do is take away all the concealed carry licenses, right? In fact, the governor of New Mexico just did that recently, where she basically said, I’m suspending the second amendment for 30 days in one of the counties in New Mexico. But they actually did a study on this years ago. And they basically looked at crime statistics. So like, what is the percentage of people that commit certain types of crimes, and they looked at the average population, and then they looked at people who held concealed carry licenses.

And they found that the rate of crime in general, but especially violent crime, and gun-related crime, was significantly lower in the population of people that had concealed carry licenses than in the general population, we’re not talking criminal population, just the general population. As somebody who is a concealed carry license holder, I completely understand that because like you said, knowing what it takes to go through all of that, these are people that take it very seriously. These are people who train on a regular basis, these are people who have morals and standards and boundaries, and all that kind of stuff. So of course, you know, there’s going to be less likely to abuse it than say, somebody who doesn’t have those same standards. So just an interesting fact about that, that kind of goes along with the point that you were making.

Karen Kaye 1:03:07
I think, as a woman, we have a primary drive, drive, and desire to feel safe and protected. And so a man who is willing to have standards and principles and who is willing to take a stand and defend himself or his woman is extremely important for us just knowing that he has the willingness and the ability to do so even if he doesn’t necessarily have to act on it.

Kevin Anthony 1:03:32
Yeah, I did an entire episode on this show about a woman’s need to feel safe. Yes. And then all the different ways that safety can manifest. So if, if you’re curious about why that’s so important, go listen to that show. But you’re also hearing firsthand from Karen about how important that feeling of safety is. The reality is, is, you know, although we live in probably one of the physically safest errors of human history, it’s still a dangerous world out there. And there is a reality that there is a physical power dynamic that’s different between men and women, right? Men in general, are physically more capable and more powerful than women. And so what that means is for those of us who are good men, we have a responsibility to even that imbalance of power out. Right. So what that means is to defend those who can’t defend themselves. Right? Yeah. Okay, so that was amazing. Wonderful. Thank you for sharing the 10 things, the 10 qualities that you love in men, I know there’s a whole lot more than 10 You’re doing a whole long series on this. So why don’t you tell people where they can find out more about this series and where they can find out more about your work and your writer also. So where can they read the things that you write?

Karen Kaye 1:04:52
Yes, so I have a website Karen-kaye.com. So Karen-kaye.com and that will link you to all of the stories that I write as well as my Instagram channel where I post all of the reels all of my work on things I love and adore about men are really short, very, they’re quick and easy, usually under two minutes. And so I will take a specific thing that I have really appreciated about men that day and post that. And I do ask that if you see something that you think would lift and brighten the spirit of of another man that you, you share that. So we need, we definitely need some intervention with putting some good vibes and some good energy for all of the men out there. Right now there are a lot of men who are feeling very beaten down their spirits of invoking they’re not hearing anything positive, that is assuring them that they are doing something good in this world or something that is being appreciated. So this is a very small and easy way to do that. So tag a man in if you’re following me tagging man, share it. And let’s work together to get some good messaging out there to show men that they truly are still loved and appreciated by at least women like me. At least there’s one of us. Yeah, I keep hearing one of the messages I keep hearing is that I’m one of the first people who I’m one of the very first vices they’ve really heard saying anything positive about men? And that saddens me tremendously, but I think we can, we can fix that by inspiring other people to maybe be a little more mindful and appreciative about just how amazing and what a phenomenal contribution men really are to our lives as women and also to society in general.

Kevin Anthony 1:06:32
Well, I think there are a lot more women out there who feel the same way you do. They just in the in the current society probably don’t feel safe enough to come out and say so. So thank you for doing this work. Thank you for voicing this and putting it out there and doing what you can to help heal the relationship between men and women. So, absolutely. I have one last question. Absolutely. I know you listen to the show. I’m sure you’ve heard this question asked a few times before, but yeah, what is your best sexual talent?

Karen Kaye 1:07:06
I suspected I would get asked this question. Oh, my God, I wasn’t sure if I was going to be evading this one or not. Okay, so this, so I’m gonna go slightly, maybe slightly tangential on this if I can. But someone had just told me actually, the other day, they had mentioned that the way that I hug and I embrace a man is very healing for them. And I was thinking about kind of the aftermath. You know, after sex, Neil, you oftentimes like having that cuddling time, and one of the things that I really love to do so probably sounds a little weird, but especially if I’m facing his back, yeah, to really just cuddle up into him and to infuse his body with just love and a sense of him feeling safe and cared for and protected. And I feel like in the aftermath, that’s when a man is probably at his most vulnerable state. And so that’s a moment where I just like to try to infuse him with as much of that energy as I can. So kind of using my energy, whether it’s just giving your Uh, hello hug to someone, or, you know, in the aftermath of sex now, to really share and infuse him with as much good energy and love and care as I can. So I hope that wasn’t dodging the question.

Kevin Anthony 1:08:23
You know, there’s, there’s no right or wrong answers to that question. So you can answer it however you want. I think that’s a beautiful thing that you do at the end. And I’m sure that you have more talents than that, but I’m glad that you shared what you were comfortable sharing.

Karen Kaye 1:08:40
Yeah. That one works for me. All right.

Kevin Anthony 1:08:44
All right. Well, thank you one last time for coming on the show and sharing the gifts that you have to share.

Karen Kaye 1:08:49
Thank you so much. It was truly an honor and a privilege to be here. So very, absolutely delighted. I hope that we can work together to help restore these broken and beaten-down spirits of men. They’re absolutely amazing, phenomenal creatures on this earth. We are so blessed to have them. And I want us to do a better job of celebrating them. So I hope others join me in doing so.

Kevin Anthony 1:09:11
All right, everybody. That’s all the time that we have for this episode. And I will see you next week. Sounds good.

Karen Kaye 1:09:17
Thank you, everyone.

Kevin Anthony 1:09:23
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