Sex & Relationship Advice From A High End Escort

Kevin Anthony 0:05
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All right, welcome back to the Love Lab podcast. This is episode 311. And it is titled sex and relationship advice from a high-end escort Oh, this is gonna be juicy today. So if you’re watching on YouTube, you can see I have a guest with me, I will introduce her in just a moment. But we’re going to be talking about things that she learned from her time working as an escort and not just her time, but also just life in general. Right. So when you hear about her past and her history, and you hear all the things that she’s done, she’s she’s got some wisdom to share with us. And so that’s what we want to dive into today. We want to know what she has learned from this crazy journey of life that she has been on.

And I think there’ll be some really interesting things in there. Because you know, people always have questions like, you know, why, why would a guy hire a high-end escort? And how does that work? And we’re like, Well, what did the women think? And you know, so we’re gonna, we’re gonna dive into that a little bit, because there are things that we can learn about how relationships function from this dynamic. So and that’s really what we want to, we want to get to here in the show we are about sex, love, and relationships and we want to understand sex, love, and relationships as best we can from as many different angles as we can. So that’s what we’re going to do today.

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Okay, my guest today is Amy Taylor. She’s an MBA, Mensa member, a commercially licensed pilot who’s flown cargo charter and been a flight instructor. She has been featured on and in L Luffy, Cialis Sports Illustrated GQ, Fhn Maximum Muscle and Fitness, Men’s Health, women’s Fitness, and even Playboy. Now in her 40s, She’s just getting started when she’s not in the skies or in front of a camera, you can find her staying fit, having fun with family and friends, and generally just enjoying this gift called Life in Manhattan or wherever life takes her. So welcome to the show, Amy.

Amy Taylor 3:19
Thank you so much for the sexual sex education you provide. I am not trying to tell all you guys and women listening to this but buy this course for your loved ones or for your hated words. Because we are getting sex education from porn in America, and that’s terrible. Nothing against porn. I watch it too. But um, yeah, like, we can all learn and it should be fun to learn so like not to overly Hawk this But dude, by this guy’s course. It’s It’s the most fun education you’re ever going to do. So yeah, thanks for having me.

Kevin Anthony 3:56
You’re welcome. And thank you for the wonderful endorsement of my power and mastery courses. I do appreciate that. Okay, we got to dive right in here. We got to know a little bit about your background because it is a very diverse background in the sense that people wouldn’t typically put all of those pieces together. In other words, you know, NBA Mensa member, okay, that’s one thing, commercial pilot. That’s like another thing like, you know, a professional model. That’s like another thing like an escort. That’s like another thing, right? So how, tell us a little bit about your background. How did you come to be who you are?

Amy Taylor 4:34
Well, I’m 47. I’ll be 48 at the end of the year, so I have had time to do lots of things. I’m a hyphenator. Like so many people. And then the reason I’ve had so much time is I didn’t do the two big things that most people get to do for lots of other reasons. Some said some by choice. I did not become a mother or a wife. And that’s okay. I’m happy with my life and Next time around, I’ll join that sorority of mothers. I’m not against it. It’s just how it worked out. So I have a lot of extra time to do a lot of extra stuff. And I didn’t want to waste it. So I am an eternal seeker. My parents are academics. I really like to learn about anything about fucking, about PFLAG about business about finance. I think if I was a billionaire and idle, I would just go get like 12 PhDs or something like edit, I would learn as much as I could before I’m dead. So the theme that runs through all the diverse things I’ve done has been that I really like to learn I’m I’m a seeker.

And so that’s why I’ve cobbled together if it interested me, and I could learn it and try to get good at it. I’ve tried and there are 10 Other things I failed. I tried to be a clarinet player, and I was so bad. My father told me to stop practicing because he couldn’t stand the noise. I tried polo and loved it – horse hockey. terrible at it. I am a very bad golfer. But I’m a good scuba diver. I’m a good skier. I’m a terrible snowboarder. So I think the running theme was that if it interested me, I was gonna use my one precious life to try to learn about it.

Kevin Anthony 6:17
Well, I certainly understand that because that is very much how I am too. I have a very diverse background. And I know I’m relatively good at a fair number of different things. People are always like, that’s kind of weird. How did that and that go together? And my answer, generally, just jokingly, of course, is I’m a Gemini, that’s just what we do.

Amy Taylor 6:38
I’m a Capricorn, but it doesn’t fit. I like Gemini, so much. My most successful retired escort girlfriend is a very successful matchmaker. She’s in the mainstream world now. And this chick gets more done by 10 am than most people in a week. And I’m here. Right? We have one precious life, and however you want to spend it, I think it’s great not to waste it.

Kevin Anthony 7:07
Agreed. Okay, so we know a little bit about you and what you’ve done. Obviously, it came up in the intro. And you’ve mentioned a little bit just in talking about who you are. But at some point, amongst the many other things that you’ve done in life, you ended up becoming a high-end escort. And you know, this is something that people are like, Well, why is she talking about it, if she’s really high, an escort, obviously, and you can tell more about this, but at a certain point, you were outed, and you became, you know, public, it became public. And so you started talking about it. So we’re not breaking any new news here. This is something that’s been, you know, out in the public for a while. But what I really want to know is, how did you end up becoming an escort?

Amy Taylor 7:54
So I did my undergrad at Cal, Berkeley in Northern California, and I was in a sorority, and one of my sorority sisters and we both went to summer school. And she I guess, trusted me enough to tell me that she was doing that. And so probably my first answer introduction to hearing about it was overly positive because it was at the very high end privileged and, and, and escorting is not always that good and healthy and, and well mannered and safe. There is there are a lot of problems that sort of other ends of the spectrum for sure.

But I, I first saw that it was all just she was going across the Bay Bridge to San Francisco having a date with some tech guy who had more money than time, and going home with a few 1000 bucks and it was helping to pay for her her tuition at Cal and apartments in the Bay Area, which were not cheap and all that. And so I thought, wow, that’s what I’m doing the same thing for free. And that probably wasn’t entirely accurate. But that was what I first saw and it interested me. I had a rich boyfriend who was 10 years older. He was finishing his residency. I met him in the ER candy striping when I thought I would still go to med school before I realized that I was too stupid to pass. Okay. So my medical dreams ended with organic chemistry. I’m just too dumb, but fine, but he was a little older. And yes, he ended up graduating making, you know, a few 100 grand a year and I made negative money. I was a student, right? So he was dangling he, you know a frat boy was like, I can’t even take you to lunch. And this guy was like, I can take you to the opera and I know that sounds gold degree. Maybe I am I’m sorry, but I did also love him. He wasn’t 90 and mean to me. He was nine and a half years older and lovely. And yes, the fact that he could do more romantic stuff, which the money helped was romantic.

And I think that’s pretty traditional for women to not like a broke guy I, again, not all women, and it’s changing fast because women are making their own money. But I’m 47. within my lifetime, women couldn’t get a loan or a credit card without a male cosigner. Women were not financially independent at all when I was born. These Manhattan girls who are 22 make more than their boyfriends, that’s a new and rare phenomenon. And it’s great. It’s changing society fast, and I’m here for it. But that was not my reality in my teens and 20s. Women did not what men made, they weren’t even close. And actually, they’re still not in a net worth and income that will take generations. If it happens, we’ll see. I’ll be dead won’t be my prom. But so he was, yes, financially helpful. And it was romantic. And I did like it. And I didn’t feel controlled. But it was nice that he was like, let’s go to Tahiti for a week. And I’ll send you to get a week’s worth of bikinis and clothes because I know you can’t afford it. And yes, I’ll pay for everything. And it was fun. So it was kind of already like a sugar baby, I guess. But we were very much in love. It was not some abusive or coercive relationship at all, or I didn’t think it was.

So then I moved and worked in biotech. I’m a very mediocre scientist at best in Marin County, did that for a couple of years I hated it pivoted to do my MBA, because with an undergrad degree in molecular biology, I wasn’t qualified for anything else. And it turned out there wasn’t that good at it and didn’t like it. So I moved to LA, the plan was he would pay for my MBA. And then two years later, I would move back up to northern California, we’d get married and start a family because he was getting older. And then we broke up. We didn’t make it. He slept with somebody else. I wasn’t really that mad about it. But I also was experiencing Los Angeles and thinking maybe I’d like to get my own job and make my own money. And I don’t know, I had this thing of like, maybe I don’t want to just become a doctor’s wife in a small town and do that. And maybe I should have maybe it would have been a better life, I don’t know, would have been safer and more respectable. But I, we didn’t make it. And so he yanked the financial rug out from under me, I suddenly had massive graduate school bills, zero income, and no car and in LA, that’s functionally impossible.

So I thought, Oh, this thing my sorority sister was doing, I’m going to do that. What should I have done? Maybe I should have dropped out of school and gotten some biotech job, the only thing I was qualified for, maybe I should have done that. I didn’t. I looked for an agency like she had worked for I couldn’t find when nobody would hire me. They hired actresses and models. And I was just this graduate school student next girl next door. But one lady told me you can do this on your own. You’re super gregarious and extroverted, you like people, and your sex-positive. You don’t need to you don’t need a manager. You’re smart. And I was like, how do you do that? And she showed me a couple of websites. I did a couple of weeks of research. Honestly, it ain’t rocket science. If you can get through molecular biology at Cal, which is still the most traumatic thing I’ve ever gone through in my life. I have nightmares about being back in college. You could become a high-end escort, it’s you set up an ad a website, you get a phone number and emails is not hard. So I did that. And my first couple of clients were immediately awesome. We saw each other for many years, and it was off to the races.

My third client was a cop. I got arrested. That sucked. He was nice until he wasn’t like you Tom in Orange County. He was wrong. And he did not help me. He thought he should retire me and save me and he thought I should date his rich brother, which was super fucking weird. If honestly, if there even was a brother, he might have been lying. I don’t I don’t know. He was a damn good actor. The dude should have been in Hollywood and good-looking. And I was very eager to date him. And yes, maybe he would help me with grad school there was that. But I liked him and he lied and the economy and he arrested me and I got an arrest record forever, which has prevented me from getting housing and jobs and health care and boyfriends. It has it has made my life difficult forever. And it will be until the day I die because of Orange County, California thinking that an arrest record would help me retire it did the opposite. It gave me a giant legal bill and made me stuck. So then I got mad. And I borrowed the money from a client I paid it off. I didn’t I wanted to it was important for me. And what the rest was just dating It was literally just dating. It was actually pretty boring.

And, and then, about 10 years later, I was very naive as you are when you’re young and you think you know everything. I did not know that there were bad people like what the media shows I really thought I was exempt from that because I was dating billionaires and traveling the world and you know that’s not going to touch me and that was very Now you’ve asked me because a pimp named David helms who owned a site called the erotic review, was still up. He wanted me to sell sex for him, which I’m not interested in doing. No one’s gonna force me to fuck when I don’t want to I fuck who I want when I want. And if they’re generous, that has nothing to do with it, I do not owe them six. I really believe that. And I don’t care what other people believe. But my body is priceless. I fuck who I want if I want, so he wanted me to transactionally sell sex. Get my clients to write Yelp reviews on this site, have it detail by detail like I’m some kind of robot. And he would charge money for memberships for others to read those reviews. And his pitch to me was I would get more clients. He would take down any bad ones, he might add some fake good ones under different screen names for me. And in return, of course, I would go to his house and fuck him anytime he wanted, right? And I laughed at him and told him to go fuck himself.

Because one thing about me if you tell me what to do, and I’m not going to do it. I’m part Italia Devolo feisty, I don’t like to be around a human soul. You’re not going to own me no one is. And so I didn’t know when I told him to go to hell with that plan, who I was picking on or who I was clapping back at. He was a very bad person. He had been arrested for rape. He had caught he collected fully automatic illegal weapons. He was addicted to crack cocaine and was a very, very bad person. And I had no idea who he was. I didn’t know who he really was very stupid, very young, very confident, right? And over the years, he got madder and madder that I was okay. Without his sight. He told me women in my business were his inventory and he was going to corner the market and that you wouldn’t be able to make a living in my world without him. And he damn near did it. His site became huge. It still is. And I didn’t know how much he hated me for defying him. In street prostitution. It’s called a renegade. It’s a girl who won’t get a pimp and won’t turn over power to a pimp and the online world. He was a version of that right? An online pimp who wanted to control you. And if you don’t, he wanted to destroy you. That’s what pimps think they think women are property. And if they don’t obey, they’re to be destroyed.

And so about a decade ago, he bought my birth name.com. He built a site out of me to the world, I lost my job, my boyfriend at the time, I had met some neighbors and we were going to try to retire and make it work. I was easing out. I hadn’t told anybody. I still ran my pay site to try to get whatever income I could. I was actually pregnant, and we were going to try to disappear me and make it work. I miscarried my 17-week-old son, who I hope I meet someday in the next life. And my family didn’t speak to me for three years, and I was consumed with getting justice. So the only way to get this site shut down that was outing me and ruining my life. All my neighbors found out. Everybody made me move. I I had to sue and get a police report. And obviously, I’m vulnerable. Maybe they’re maybe they’re going to throw it out of court. Maybe they were going to arrest me, but I did not care. I did both. I went to the police with my lawyers and I filed a lawsuit. I said I don’t care what happens to me, I have to solve this. So luckily, they may have hated what I did, but they decided to help me. I won the lawsuit. I never collected the judgment because I never cared about the money. I just wanted it shut down.

So He still owes me money. I don’t care. But then when I won the lawsuit, he was so angry. I had escaped to Phoenix, Arizona where I got my flight instructor license in Mesa. And nobody knew where I lived because it was a pilot apartment. So I thought I was safe from him. And I was just flying every day lonely, no family, no job, no boyfriend, nothing just flying. And he somehow found me I don’t know how and the Phoenix da Christie Bell called me one night with my lawyer on the phone and said that David Holmes was driving to Phoenix to kill me. And they intercepted and arrested him. And then after a long, lengthy case, he made bail escaped. Tried to cross the border and San Diego Fugitive Unit got him thank God. He went to jail for many years. And that was good. The victim services tells me where he is to the degree they know forever. And apparently, he’s tried to clean up his life. I’m told and so far he’s left me alone.

Kevin Anthony 19:46
Okay, so let’s pause here for a moment. That was quite the story. There’s a point I want to make here. And this is why I wanted to go into this stuff and The beginning. So we’re going to be talking in just a moment about, you know what you learned from your career. But we also wanted to make sure that when we talked about this, we didn’t make it look like, hey, all your young, beautiful women, you should go run out and do this right away, because it’s super amazing, right? So I think we did a good job of showing this stuff can get serious, fast, and dangerous, right? This is not necessarily something that you would recommend to people, but be that as it may, you have learned some things. So let’s start to go in that direction. Let’s talk about what you learned.

So the first question I have is, you know, you mentioned that you were dating like, you know, a lot of very wealthy people. Obviously, we know very wealthy people, when you have huge amounts of money, you can pretty much just have whatever you want. But there has to be more than just, I’m hiring her because I can, there has to be something more to it than that. So what do you think were some of the reasons why these men because I assume most of them were married. What were some of the reasons why they might choose to you know, have you be part of their lives?

Amy Taylor 21:21
Yeah, well, of course, you’d have to ask them so I’m, I’m, I’m they say what they say sometimes it’s true. Sometimes it’s lies to be polite, and harmless, but you to the jury, I know. There’s a variety of reasons. Yes, some of them. It’s just fun. It’s not more than that. I’m one of several. Yeah, they’re bored and rich, and it’s fun. Some of them are physically not super attractive, and they like beauty. Just like they like beautiful cars and homes and art. Some people are very visual like they crave to be around a beautiful woman, it literally makes them happy. I am delightfully alive, animated and extroverted. And I’m very interested in people. So I’m a good hang. I’m fun to have dinner with and vacation with. I’m an idiot and a clown. And I have no shame. I’m emotionally very available. That’s fun. There is some of them. It’s a sexual exploration.

Because look, I’ve done everything sexually. I pretty much like everything sexually, I’m pleased to have done a lot of it. I mean, you can always keep learning, but I think some of them marry a very good woman from a very good family because rich people’s status is important to them. She may be wonderful in many ways, but she’s not going to be a professional who literally made her life learning about sex and sensuality the way that I did. So and I’m the big one, of course is that I’m not going to fuck up their life. That’s the deal, right? Those are the rules, even if I wish I could be the wife and sometimes I did. Even if they fall in love and I don’t want to the rules are both people can leave you don’t there’s no commitment unless you want one. So the strings-free on-demand aspect is very appealing, right? Because in regular relationships, there are entanglements, which are beautiful but also can be painful. There is none of that. The rules are if somebody wants to not call you again, you have to let it happen. You have to let it be. There is only physical appearance, there can be Oh, the big one we’re not talking about is sometimes their spouse, look, I wish they had all been single, it would have been easier on my shame and you worry about hurting somebody who doesn’t know and didn’t consent. That’s not great.

But then you’d have to outlaw affairs and everybody ever meeting a neighbor they might cheat with and good luck with that society. But that part’s complicated. It was not ideal. I have had wives call me in pain and it sucks it I and I don’t like it. I’m a human. I feel shame. If I’m hurting somebody I’m normal. But to the degree some of them were married a big, common reason was the wife hit menopause and the physical changes. When estrogen falls off the vagina walls thin there can be witnessed issues. A lot of men have a weird thing where they won’t use lube. Because it’s not naturally wet and ego. It’s so dumb, dude, lube is your friend. Everybody just use lube. It’s great. It’s awesome. Slippery is everything should be slippery. It feels so good. But that’s the thing and we’re making great strides in medicine now dealing with menopause. There’s HRT, there’s Mona Lisa procedures with lasers. There’s all kinds of stuff but it’s all expensive. insurance doesn’t cover any of it, which I think is insane because insurance covers Viagra and Cialis but we’re not talking in America about how All sex has to change when women hit the change the menopausal changes in life.

Kevin Anthony 25:06
So let’s explore a couple of these things a little bit. Because what we’re what we’re trying to get to is, you know, what I’m hoping people will get out of this is, I’m a big fan of keeping relationships together. And I like to see healthy relationships, right? So the nuggets that I wanted to pull out of that little piece there was, what was going potentially wrong, or maybe not the way they wanted it to be in their relationship that led them to seek something outside, right, because if you can understand what that is, you can fix it before that happens. Now, obviously, some of it was just fun. It was just because they could it was because it was ego, or it was because you know, they like to have a beautiful woman on their shoulder, whatever it is, okay, we can throw all that because that’s super easy to understand. Right? And there aren’t really particular lessons to be learned there.

Amy Taylor 25:55
Well, there are some are single, they just date and it’s easier to throw a few grand at her and not have to marry her right then than married ones.

Kevin Anthony 26:05
Yeah, but let’s talk a little bit more about that. So one of the things that you mentioned was that their wives, potentially, were willing to do some of the things sexually, that you were willing to do. So here’s Lesson number one people. If you are in a relationship with somebody who is very sexual, and who values sexuality, you might want to consider figuring out ways in which you can come to a place where you can both meet each other’s needs. Because what happens is, when one person has needs and the other person just flat out refuses to meet those needs. One of two things happen, their need doesn’t get met, they stay in the relationship and huge resentment builds up and they’re angry all the time, and or they end up divorcing, or they end up having an affair, or potentially, you know, I mean, there’s Is there really much of a difference between having an affair and hiring an escort? Not really, very small difference, right? And in fact, many of those people would probably say hiring an escort is safer than having an affair as far as the entanglements and things like that, that you were mentioning before, right?

Unknown Speaker 27:21
But you can, no spouse likes it.

Kevin Anthony 27:24
No, that’s true. But the point here is, you can see how refusing to figure out ways to meet each other’s needs in a relationship can lead to this sort of thing. So my suggestion always is, is like, you know, keep an open mind, obviously, you know, don’t do anything that compromises your values, you know, if somebody wants you to do something that’s really, you know, just like, I can’t do it. But if you want to maintain a healthy relationship, and your partner is somebody who wants a lot of sex and different kinds of sex, you got two options, you can participate in that and keep him happy, right? Or you’re gonna have to be okay with him seeking his needs met elsewhere. And hopefully, if you go that route, you do it in a way that’s consensual and healthy, as opposed to sneaking around and with affairs and risky behavior and, and that sort of thing. And by the way, this goes both ways as well. This means that men, you need to keep your women sexually satisfied and happy also, because when you look at the statistics, a whole lot of women cheat as well. Right? A lot better. She has well, why?

Because a lot of men, honestly, there’s their sexual performance is pretty terrible. And their women’s needs are not being met. We talked about that all the time. On this show, we can see the data, there’s been two major studies done, the average man lasted with one study two to five minutes in the other study, three to seven minutes, basically less than 10 minutes in general, that’s the average man, which means you know, average 50% of men last less than that, right? The average woman 20 to 30 minutes to reach orgasm. There’s a huge gap between those two things. So you know, I’m talking all the time with men when they’re like, I don’t get it. She never wants to have sex. And she’s never interested. And I always have to initiate and the very first thing I have to ask them as well as she getting the kind of sex that she wants. I was actually out recently this weekend, and I met a friend of a friend. And when people find out what I do for a living, they always want to ask me questions. It’s like, it’s like, when you meet a doctor, the first thing she says, Doc, I got this thing like, what do you think about it? You know? It’s kind of the same. When I go on people find out that I’m a sex love and relationship coach.

So she’s like, Oh, my God, I have to ask you a question. And I’m like, okay, great. She’s like, I have this pattern of like, I date somebody for two years, and then I just get bored with them and I break up with them and move on. Why why do you think that is? So of course, I was giving her the top two reasons why that is, we don’t need to go into that now. And then I paused and I said, I’ll add one more thing. If you were getting fucked properly, you would have still been attracted to him and wanted to have sex with him. And she paused. We’re like, in the middle of this busy, trendy bar down at the beach, you know? And she just pauses. And she goes, You’re absolutely right. So I say that as a real-life example, to be like, Look, guys, if you cannot properly satisfy your woman, she might get bored and wander as well, or just break up with you, she may, she may be more inclined to just leave you then than actually cheat. But a lot of women cheat also. So that was Rule number one is you need to be able to meet your partner’s needs as best you can. And if not find alternative ways to meet the needs.

Now, the second thing that you talked about, so there was a boy, now I just forgot what was the very last one that you mentioned. I met aging menopause or no menopause. Yes, great. Thank you for reminding me of that. So the menopause thing is a real deal thing as well. And there are definitely changes going on. However, there are plenty of things, as you mentioned, that you can do. There are of course, new medical procedures. But even outside of that, there are a lot of things that a woman can do to solve those problems. In other words, a woman who is in balance going through menopause is a very different woman from a woman who is out of balance, and that can be hormonally out of balance that can be emotionally out of balance, right? So there are a lot of things that you can do. I am at that age, now I’m 50 years old, and I’ve been dating again since my wife passed, right, I know what it’s like to be having sex with women who are in their 40s and 50s. And who are very much even though sometimes they don’t want to admit it, in the middle of going through menopause.

But they don’t have any problems, at least the ones that I’ve dated, have not had any problems at all, with their sexuality, because, you know, I’m a very healthy fit person, I appreciate very healthy fit women. So I’m naturally attracted to women who are athletic, and you know, they’re doing all the stuff. And I have not experienced any of those problems. And I’ve had other women on the show who’ve talked about this, who have talked about their journey in the ways that they were able to solve it. So it is possible. That that’s what I wanted people to get out of that it is possible to fix or solve a lot of those problems and others just because you hit your 40s or 50s and you’re in menopause, does not mean that that’s it. Sex is no good. You’re gonna be uninterested in it anymore. I have a couple of friends, female friends who are in their 50s, who are basically post-menopause like they’re in menopause, right? So they are Mina paused, and they tell me that the sex has never been better in their entire life.

Amy Taylor 32:57
I’ve seen it too. My Best New York friend. She’s 55 She’s so funny. She’s so beautiful. She loves that she doesn’t have periods anymore. Life Hack, right? She’s winning. Yes. So to your point about women’s bodies, yeah, the women that like you, it’s because you know how to fuck and you’re nice looking. That’s obviously not trying to flatter you, but it’s true. And we know that women can get horny again older because look at how divorced women like they get all fit and hot and then they they enjoy fucking again because they’re happy. So we’ve seen we see it a million times. Yes, we are creatures that are very different from men were linked to the moons and the tides, for when I get very unhappy and stressed, my period gets like five times heavier. So body mind soul, you know this in Tantra. women’s sexuality. Foreplay starts that day foreplay starts that morning with texts, you know, you know all this, you talk about it. It’s it. It has something to do with aging, but actually, not totally. It’s much more to do with your emotional, spiritual mental balance for sure.

Kevin Anthony 34:08
Yeah, absolutely. Interestingly enough, I’ve had more than one lover, including my wife, and my wife was nine years younger than I was. And you know, when we first got together, I remember her saying, like, Oh, you don’t have any lube, like by the bed. And I was like, I’ve never needed it was in her mind. She was like, Yeah, right. You’re just one of those guys that refuses to use lube. We’ll see about this. Right. So that was that was her mindset and how she was thinking about it. But you know, after we had been together, she I remember her saying like, Oh my God, I’ve never been this wet in my life. Like I thought she was in her early 30s When we got together. And she was like, I thought that I just didn’t lubricate, and like that was just how life was going to be what she learned from that was in the right relationship with the right man. She massively lubricated.

Amy Taylor 35:09
So yeah, I mean, and there are changes like you know in the middle of your cycle when you’re ovulating you’re wet you’re wetter but correct if foreplay is done well and for and it’s the right man and for me and I know a lot of my girlfriends there’s, you want to feel safe and I don’t just mean physically safe like emotionally safe, open, trusting I cum a lot easier if I feel safe and I think that does exist in many women. Maybe not all some like danger. That’s cool. There are 4 billion women everything exists. But yeah, I think that’s why relationships are so important even in high escorting like the worst people the worst fucks are people who only have one-night stands because they don’t learn anything. You have nothing against a one-night stand I’m not judging. I’ve been orgies and swinger parties had a lot of fun. It’s fine. It’s great.

But you really learn about your partner and their their quirks and needs. A wife once called me very angry, her husband got caught. And one of the things she complained about is that she very much liked early morning sex. Actually, so do the sunrise kind of thing sleepy, then maybe go back to bed if you can after you. It’s hot. You don’t look perfect, but who cares? That’s why God invented doggy style. You don’t have to look at each morning morning grass, not a problem. It’s cool. But um, this particular gentleman hated morning sex because he joked that when he woke up first thing in the morning, he needed to use the toilet. That was his body. And what a heartbreaking curse that she was at her horniest at a time that he was not. And maybe they should have been with other people. Or maybe there should have been like you said conversion, go use the toilet running through the shower, and then do sex if you love her. Or maybe she should have sometimes settled for afternoon six. I mean, the key you said If you love somebody, again, you don’t want to subjugate your needs, but there should be some conversion. And I’m doing it for you because I love you.

Kevin Anthony 37:12
I mean, that’s, that’s an absolutely great example, because it’s something that is so simple and easy to fix. Now, when I’m coaching men, and I’m trying to teach them how to last longer, one of the things I do tell them is before you have sex, absolutely go empty your bladder, right? Because if you don’t and you’re in, you’re contracting the muscles constantly to try to you know, hold your your urine in, you’re creating tension, which is going to lead to premature ejaculation. Okay, yes. So that is generally a rule, go to the bathroom first. However, if you know, once you’ve mastered this, you should still be able to make love in the morning. Unless you really really have to go. You should be able to say like, you wake up in the morning it Yeah, yeah, I have to go. But you know, we’re gonna have sex and I don’t feel like getting up right now. And let’s just do it. And I’ll go later, right? Like I do that all the time. However, there’s also nothing wrong with let me just run to the bathroom. I’ll be back in five minutes. Right? Just get right back into bed. Right so here’s your example is one that is great because it shows the wedge that that simple thing put in between these two people in their relationship and what it led to later on, and how freakin easy it would have been to fix.

Amy Taylor 38:30
I don’t know why they didn’t talk about it. They were both deeply religious. A lot of shame, in not judging religion. I hope there’s a God. I don’t know. I’ll find out. I’ll let you know if I go first. I don’t know why they didn’t discuss it. That’s the real problem. I’ve also seen them, a lot of men, maybe that’s just a high-end escort thing but they’re nervous about performance because men are asked to be the performer and the doer and the giver of orgasms. Sometimes too much sympathetic innervation is a boner killer. Massage which is a great form of foreplay, and good calm music and calm is a superpower for sex and sometimes, like getting into the body without focusing on the genitals yet, half an hour later, you can get a rock-hard erection or the woman can get wet because you took some time to adjust out of your day of particularly here in New York noise and phone calls and meetings into a space where you can chill neurosis is a sex is an orgasm killer.

Kevin Anthony 39:39
Yeah, absolutely. performance anxiety is very, very big for men. It’s getting more. It’s getting talked about more now than it used to be because it used to be not really talked about a whole lot. But it’s being talked about a lot now. And because of that one of the things that we’re seeing is especially if you’re working in the coaching industry is that it is affecting a lot of men all across the board. And right now it’s particularly hitting young men the hardest. Really? Yeah, what, what’s been going on. And this is a trend with some of the younger generations in general. But it’s also a trend that has been perpetuated by things like COVID.

What we’re seeing a lot with these younger men is they’re not dating. So they’re not getting the experience. Right. And so one, they don’t have the actual physical experience of having sex. So there’s, they’re waiting longer and longer before they actually have sex, till they’re older when they have sex. And now they’ve been building it up in their minds for a long time, right? And they’re also waiting a lot longer to date. And so when they do finally start dating and having sex, there’s a ton of anxiety about, am I going to be able to do this, then if you want to throw in another factor that happens because they’re waiting longer and longer to date and have sex, there tends to be a lot more porn use to fill the gap. Right? And so the porn use is actually training them. Bad masturbation habits are training them to actually ejaculate faster. So they got this, they got this mix of stuff. You gave me kind of a funny look when I said that. But the reality is, is like, this is how most men use porn. I spent 20 minutes looking for the clip I wanted to watch, right? And then I find that oh, this is the one you put it on. And within five minutes, you ejaculate and you move on to the next thing, right? So I Yeah, well, I’ve given him the benefit of the doubt honestly. It’s probably more like 30 seconds to maybe two minutes. But you can see what that does train men to ejaculate too quickly.

Amy Taylor 41:46
Some porn is so violent. I’m not anti-violence, but a little hair pulling I’m finding the right moment with stay forward and all that, you know, pineapple if you don’t like it, but um, but some of it is not very nice sex. I don’t want to be printable, but I don’t if that’s their learning, everyone likes it when it’s often very extreme fringe stuff that you wouldn’t want to do first session you wouldn’t want to do with everybody. That’s a real problem, too. You’re learning bad skills.

Kevin Anthony 42:15
Well, for sure. So there are the extreme ends of porn, which are definitely teaching you bad things. But even in the not-so-extreme version, like I had on the show a couple of years ago, Eric Everhart, who’s like one of the top male porn, you know, performers of all time, and one of the things that we talked about on this show was how porn sex and real sex are not the same. Right. And so not only did he star in a lot of porn, but he actually produced and directed before and after he was not starring in anymore. And so, you know, he can see it from the producer director’s point of view as well. And he’s like, like, if I’m gonna go down on a woman, you know, in a movie, he’s like, it’s not going to be the same. In other words, you know, in real life, your whole face is just going to be buried in there, you’re not going to see anything.

But, but in porn movies, you know, you’re gonna be like two inches away with your tongue, like, you know, and he’s like, this is just not real oral sex. And the same thing with the positions and the different ways that you do it. So even if you’re not on the extreme end of porn, you’re watching them do sex in a way that’s not natural. It’s a way that is designed to look good on camera, but not actually be good for the people having sex itself. So that’s another point.

Amy Taylor 43:30
Like, is that a financial strain thing? Inflation and whatever are they? Because it was always scary to approach women and get rejected, who cares about the next, its sales? That’s gonna help them 1000 times but like, okay.

Kevin Anthony 43:46
It’s a deep conversation. There are a lot of potential reasons for it. Some of it has to do with the internet and the changes in society and everybody hiding behind computers and not going out and being personable anymore. And there’s the whole me to movement thing, which also hurt men a lot in that area of of being afraid now to approach women and say things. There’s plummeting testosterone levels, which has been an issue for a long time, and then not necessarily really even having the drive, you’ve got all the pressure from society not to be masculine. And not to do those things, right? And to to be this sort of softy, you know, new agey kind of men, there’s a whole bunch of reasons for it be that, you know, whatever the reason is, for that particular individual, it’s just trends that we’re seeing.

And so the point is that the anxiety around sex and sex performance is a really big issue now, and it’s affecting even young people. I mean, I can remember when I was in my 20s now, maybe even a little earlier than that, because, by my 20s, I was already starting to figure it out. But, prior to that, like, I mean, we were all terrible in bed. None of us were good at it. But do you think we stressed ourselves out to the point where we couldn’t get an erection? No, we just had massive erections and we just wanted to get laid any which way we could and we were just like, The way to get better is to just fuck more, right. But that’s just not the way younger people are seeing it these days. So that’s a whole other thing. I want to come back to the lessons that we have learned.

So we’ve already covered a few lessons from you know, your experience and how you experience the men and even sometimes, because you’ve mentioned that you’ve gotten calls from wives how you’ve experienced the wife. So we’ve learned a little bit about that, I want to dive a little bit more into it. However we got so into that conversation, I totally missed my second sponsored ad. So let me just pause for that for a moment. And then we’ll come back because I want to know about intimacy and communication in these situations and what you may have learned, from these situations about those two things.

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Amy Taylor 46:54
So after the course be prepared to be like you’re coming over now, sir, I don’t care what you’re doing here and a half an hour.

Kevin Anthony 47:01
Exactly.

Amy Taylor 47:02
If it’s good dick like, women, you could slap her mom, if you can make her come well, and she will say they’ll date you. I don’t don’t do that.

Kevin Anthony 47:15
And this is a point that I made earlier. And thank you for reiterating that point, which is that, you know, if you are really fucking her properly, and making her come hard and often and look at you like you are fricking, God, she will love you, and she will constantly want more of it.

Amy Taylor 47:30
Oh, yeah. When it’s a good day, you really do want to go in the kitchen and make him a sandwich. I hate that. But it’s you know, it’s ancient biology and you cannot override it.

Kevin Anthony 47:45
And it’s absolutely true. That’s, it’s a very good point that you just brought up, which is that, you know, there’s been a lot of pressure in society to make everything in relationships totally equal, right, we’ve got to make everything equal, which of course, completely destroys polarity, we know that. But if you tried to tell somebody that, you know, it would be great if she went in the kitchen and made me a sandwich, the backlash you would get in today’s society would be so ridiculous. But here’s the thing, you’re not making her go into the kitchen and make you a sandwich. You are fucking her so good, that she is so satisfied that she literally wants to go into the kitchen and make you a sandwich. That is the difference.

Amy Taylor 48:29
So while in there walking sideways with a towel.

Kevin Anthony 48:36
Yeah, holding on to the walls and the railings as he gets down to the kitchen.

Amy Taylor 48:41
Wobbly legs at all. And, she’ll be thrilled to because you’ve taken her to a spiritual plane. And like it’s it’s such a pure form of pleasure. We’re only here for a few decades, like it’s a clitoris is then the gees but those are those are parts that were solely created for pleasure, like learning the end? Absolutely. Because you’ll know stuff most guys don’t know you’ll have a trade secret, like such an advantage.

Kevin Anthony 49:12
That is very true. Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about what you’ve learned about how to keep a relationship alive, right? Because, okay, there’s there’s observing the dynamic between the couple as being the third person but there’s also keeping the dynamic alive between you and this person, right? Because the way you’ve described it is it’s not purely transactional, that there are reciprocal feelings and things like that. So what tips do you have for people from your personal experience about what what does it take really, to keep a relationship alive?

Amy Taylor 49:52
While and many times the wife is happy, even involved or approving? There’s all things that exist I’ve also had regular civilian In relationships, and I’ve been in love I’m a human. Some of them were open and non-monogamous. Some were monogamous. So I’ve also had my own. I don’t just, I didn’t just escort I lived also in the regular world, so, but it’s the same things professionally, actually that that are true in non-professional relationships. Communication, I know you’ve heard it a million times everybody, but it’s really true. And when I say communication, you’ve got to be willing to be vulnerable. It’s scary to tell somebody what you need. You obviously frame it in a way that’s not offensive because you ideally you like and or love them, and you want to be polite manners matter, but clear communication about your needs, where you’re at, and how you’re feeling, guys are pretty, pretty communicative.

When you make them feel safe and let them know I’ve never had a bad result when I’ve communicated. I think the other one is empathy. Like, can you try to put yourself in the other person’s shoes? I think a lot of women just think men should have a lower sex drive and just be women. Well, they’re not women. And you should love them for that, because it’s they talk about polarity. I like it that men and women are not the same. I’m all for equal rights and respect in society. But we are not the same. We’re not equal because we’re not identical. And that’s great. So empathy, can you step out of your own ego, and think about what it’s like to be your partner or partners? Can you get out of your childish ego? A lot of people struggle because they’re so wrapped up in what they want. But can you think about if you’ve rejected your partner’s sexual advances for months, how does that feel for them? Okay, you didn’t want sex but they are not you. Shocker. Empathy, um, I think, nonverbal communication. I’m part Italian, I talk too much with my hands. I’m working on it. I’m failing at it.

Active listening, also not great at that I talk way too much every man I’ve ever loved, or who loved me has wished I would shut up more. I’m working. Also failing at that. But at least I’m always communicating. None of them have ever wondered where I met emotionally. So we are what we are but within the framework of your personality and your needs. Watch your nonverbal communication. What’s your body language, you know? What’s wrong with if you’re on the couch watching Netflix, just putting a leg over them? Dragging your nails across him? I’ve every single man I’ve ever met in any capacity as an escort or not craved more physical touch from the women that they had he loved. Why deny him that? You? Do you think sex is a chore? Well, other you do other chores, you wash dishes, and fucking is more fun than that? You? I think it is. If you’re doing it right. It should be if you start, you might find a few minutes in that it’s that you’re quite amenable to it. As chores go, it’s the best one. You can most men feed them, fuck them, and they’ll do anything for you. So can you respect your boundaries while not creating more conflict by denying somebody a physical touch, which is a human need?

It’s I think it’s actually cruel if you say you love somebody, to make them beg, to not be rejected physically, that’s mean, and to hamstring them that they can’t have that and they also can’t seek it elsewhere. I would have regulated your emotions. That’s very true in business of course, in a professional setting, as an escort if somebody said something I didn’t agree with politically or, or religiously I bite my tongue a lot because it’s a job. And I’m sure I said dumb shit all the time that they just ignore it. I’m sure it did. But also in your personal relationships, can you regulate your emotions, not everything? You don’t have to win every time you don’t have to win every battle. Would you want to be right and be alone? Okay, fine, but I don’t. And I think creating a safe, trustworthy environment that goes back to communication, confidentiality, your partners, you know, you know, where all the bodies are buried in your relationship and they need to be able to trust you that you have their back and that means not when you go to the party, don’t make fun of your partner to others don’t you know what they say? Criticize in private compliment in public.

That’s always true, like, be a good team player. You’ve picked a person and you’ve said hold my hand at it. Let’s do this thing called life together. For however long we get and as you know, you you don’t know how long you’ll get together. But for whatever gift you’ve been given. Be a good partner. like creating trust and safety and confidentiality, keep private information secure, be it be a team that will positively reinforce trust and create a safe space that will you will see results in your sex life. You know, don’t be so judgmental, you’re not perfect either. And if you wanted them to be more perfect, as the joke says, if they were more perfect, they might not want you. So be grateful for your partner’s flaws, because you have many. And so I think, yeah, just it all comes back to communication as so many things do.

Kevin Anthony 55:36
Yes, communication is absolutely huge. But you shared so many good valuable pieces of advice there. I Honestly there were at least a dozen of them in that, you know, answer that you gave, there’s no way I can go back and address every one of them. But the one thing that I will say is this. If you’ve been listening to this show, for any length of time, you might have recognized that this is advice that I give on this show all the time. And, you know, I’m not saying that to be like, oh, you know, look at me see, I already knew this. The point is, is I want you to hear it from more than just me. And I want you to hear it from people from all different walks of life. I have people come on the show, who are psychiatrists, psychologists, coaches, you know, former escorts, whatever it is. And but they all say the same thing, if they’ve taken enough time to really learn and understand how relationships work and what it takes to actually create a long-lasting, healthy, successful relationship and sex life, which is part of that, they all come to the basically the same conclusions, right. And so that’s what I really want people to hear from this is, it doesn’t, it doesn’t even matter. You know, if it’s an escort situation, in other words, you still need to have the same things in place to make a relationship work.

Amy Taylor 57:02
Of any sort. Your neighbors, your friends, your co-workers, your kids, if you’ve got your pet to communicate with you it’s not verbal, but unless you have a parrot, but the you it’s, and people don’t I think people who are poor communicators, I think it’s fear, I’d have to ask, they’re worried if I if they say something that’s vulnerable, they’ll no longer receive love, you’d be surprised what people can handle. If you’re honest and vulnerable. There will be some initial shock, that’s possible. But if they love you, oh, people can handle a lot. If you’re truthful, they really can. And again, as I said, you frame it in ways that aren’t deliberately hurtful, because you know, not being an asshole is always a good move. But open and on open honesty with empathy, I don’t think is ever the wrong way to go.

Kevin Anthony 57:54
It’s always correct. And if you do something else that you mentioned earlier, which was create an atmosphere of safety within the relationship, then people feel safe enough to be able to be fully open and honest and share these things.

Amy Taylor 58:10
Yes, you can. I forgot to mention different people communicate differently. I have both succeeded and failed at meeting all kinds of different people from certainly different cultures and different walks of life. A Caucasian CEO from Manhattan is different than a sort of entertainer from Venezuela. Like there are cultural differences, religious. So I think adapting your communication style to the type of partner you have, if you see if you watch like, if you’re speaking to them, and they’re starting to shut down and you see some of this and they’re looking away and you start to see fight or flight, it is important to adapt the way you speak to them, including maybe picking a different time or place. But watch their feedback you get when you communicate. And you’ll eventually become an expert on your partner after a while but different people respond to different things. Again, I’m part Italian, we love to hash it all out and have a good cry and fight and then make up and eat. But uh, but people like British people from old money are stiffer about conflict. And and that’s okay. Everybody’s different. It’s beautiful. But it’s important to maybe adapt. It makes you more approachable for different types of people. And if you can, it makes them again, to your point feel safer.

Kevin Anthony 59:38
All right. Well, we are pretty much out of time for this episode, but I want to do a couple of things before we get off. One. I want to give you an opportunity to share any last advice or things that you want to share with the audience. I also want to give you an opportunity to obviously talk about you know, anything you you want to let the audience know about how they might, you know, work with you in whatever capacity find you, whatever it is that you want to promote. And then I have one last question for you after that.

Amy Taylor 1:00:08
Oh, I just want to say thank you for humanizing one form of sex work. There are millions of us, I promise you, everybody who’s listening to this, someone you love and know is a sex worker. You may not know it, you may just see them at yoga or Whole Foods or you know, but there are millions of us and we’re people and the overwhelming majority only do it for a while. They’re not all weirdo lifers like me have an even even though that’s okay, too. But we’re humans and even if you hate our world, we’ve always existed, we always will. And, and we’re human souls on a journey. So try to open your mind if you care about getting active. There are SWOP chapters in pretty much every city everywhere you can get involved if you’re interested.

And again, even if you hate our work, you can agree that harm reduction is the way these are usually young people, usually poor people, they go on to do be be other things in life later. And we shouldn’t throw them away. We shouldn’t let them be hurt and literally killed. These are humans. And so if you care, there’s great things being done in the law to try to reduce harm. You can speak out, you can even just say, Hey, I watched this podcast, I met a sex worker and she might be a weirdo, but she’s a human then. Or if you if you believe that. So thanks for humanizing us. It really matters in the closets where they harm us. And when they don’t think that we’re subhuman. They feel at liberty to literally destroy us. And I want that to stop happening.

Kevin Anthony 1:01:45
Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, I don’t think it should be demonized. I mean, just even outside of the work I do, because I talk to a lot of varied people from all different walks of life, and a lot of it revolves around sex. But even outside of my own personal world, I know several women who are sex workers, just from my own group of friends. The only difference is that, you know, in the circles, I travel, people talk much more openly about these types of things. But your average person, like you said, probably knows, somebody also, it’s just not talked about openly. So there’s that. So there’s the, you know, realizing that they’re real people, and that, you know, there’s there’s actually a need in the world for what you do. But then also, you know, learning about like, Hey, if you’re in a committed relationship, and you don’t want your partner to do that, like how do you actually nurture a relationship, such that he doesn’t have the need, or want to do that, right. So there’s that end of it also.

Amy Taylor 1:02:45
You can be your partner’s sex worker, it’s a super hot fantasy roleplay to and you, you can people return to where there’s great sex, they don’t really go elsewhere, if they got you got great food in the fridge you eat.

Kevin Anthony 1:02:59
So you know, my, my wife and I, when we got together, we were originally in a triad. So there was another person involved, but I was actually the third person coming into that relationship. And so that’s how we operated in the beginning. And then eventually the other person left and it was just the two of us. And at a certain point, I remember because it was probably one of the best things any woman has ever said to me. But I clearly remember one day, she just looked me in the eye and she says, I don’t ever want any other COC but yours for the rest of my life. That was one of the biggest compliments anybody’s ever given me.

Amy Taylor 1:03:38
Yeah, yeah, that’s what everybody wants to hear. And yeah, good job. Because whatever you did to get that good job. I mean, you’re alright. Yeah, I haven’t known you for 20 years, but you’re a very open soul. You’ve done the work of staying physically attractive. Let’s be honest, that matters. You talked about that. It matters. Like we like somebody cute. But more than that, you’re a very open soul. And I’m sure I wish you guys had had more time. I don’t know. It’s unfair and heartbreaking. But in the little infinity that you’ve got you man. Did you guys have fun? And I’m glad she did. I don’t know. Maybe, maybe in the infinity, it comes back again. Who knows?

Kevin Anthony 1:04:20
Let’s hope all right, I got one last question for you. This should be a fairly easy one for you to answer although I don’t know maybe there are too many to choose from. But it’s a question I asked everybody that comes on the show. And that is what is your best sexual talent?

Amy Taylor 1:04:39
Enthusiasm! Whatever I lack in skill I make up for in that I I like to fuck and that’s not an act. It’s not for connections or personal gain or money or somebody’s looks. The first time I had sex at 18 and one day I was like, this is for me. Yeah, I do I like to suck dick. I like pretty much every act if if it’s a right person who makes me feel safe I’m pretty adventurous. Haven’t haven’t tried much that I hated. But I think more than that, it’s it’s that I’m I’m eternally curious and then that since I’ve been a very open non-judgmental partner, I’ll try anything once, twice if I like it, as they say.

Kevin Anthony 1:05:25
Well, enthusiasm is really important, actually, enthusiasm can make up for a lot of lack of skill. This is something I’ve been this past year coaching a lot more women, which is not something I ever thought I would do. And so I’ve been doing a lot of content for women and when I’m talking about things of a sexual nature, one of the things that always comes up in that is you gotta love what you do. If you want to be good at second deck, you just kind of love the SEC day. I mean, that’s the reality. I mean, yeah, you can go and watch all the videos and take all the, you know, a million classes out there how to give a great blow job, right? That will help. I’m not saying it won’t help. But if you just love it, if you go after that Dick, like, like, this is the best thing you’ve had in your mouth ever. You’re just going to be good at it. Because we’ll feel that we will feel that energy.

Amy Taylor 1:06:17
There’s too much shame. Most of my girlfriends were told that only slept like sex. That good girls don’t that men won’t love you. If you have if you’d like to fuck that you got to dole it out carefully. So they’ll respect you. There’s so much shame. And there’s so many women who want to fuck want to have better sex, and don’t feel like they can. And so thank you for coaching women, it’s needed, because there are a lot of women who are stifling themselves because they believe that society will harm them badly if they enjoy the beauty of sex, and it’s a real shame.

Kevin Anthony 1:06:54
Well, you know, speaking of equality in the world, now is a great time to make it known that men and women can both love and enjoy sex as much as the other. There’s no reason not to. As you said, we’re only here for a few decades, and in my opinion, sex is one of the best parts of being here in these human bodies. So Well, Amy, I would like to thank you for coming on the show and being so open about your life and your experiences and what we can all learn from the decades that you have been here and the experience that you’ve learned.

Amy Taylor 1:07:35
Thank you for having me. It’s so fun. I love what you’re doing. There’s a real vacuum, particularly in America, but in a lot of other places. And the great thing now with Zoom is, is people can learn from anywhere and some of the best a few of the best lovers I ever had actively got a coach or back in the day got videos or and wanted to learn to be better lovers. And we’re humble enough to seek help. You don’t do your own dental work. You don’t color your lumps. Some people call it their own hair doesn’t usually work out well. But like most things you want to get good at you get a pro.

Kevin Anthony 1:08:14
This is what I say all the time. Like you’ll hire a personal trainer, you’ll hire a nutrition person, you’ll hire somebody for everything. But when it comes to actually being good at sex, you don’t do it. Why is that?

Amy Taylor 1:08:27
Yeah, it’s a shame. Like you’re supposed to magically know how why why would you of course and, and so and what a powerful thing to like, help people. I mean, when people are, like you said fluffy, properly, such a great way to say it. That love can flourish because there’s not that block of like, feeling physically rejected. And it’s like a dam breaks and the love can flow the thing to Buddhist called a penis, the heart chakra or something there that they you really, if you have a better sex life, a lot of other things get better. Like, I had a client once tell me he’s like if my wife would fuck me, I would I would do all the chores, I would do anything she wanted.

Kevin Anthony 1:09:12
Yeah, that’s very true. And it’s something that I’m always telling them when I’m coaching the men, which is that, you know, if you fix the problems in your sex life, you’ll see all the other areas of your life start to improve as well. Because they’re not separate. Right?

Amy Taylor 1:09:26
And that, man, you’ll march into that office or whatever you do, like, exactly,

Kevin Anthony 1:09:31
Exactly, you will have way more confidence. You’ll be you’ll be walking around with what they call big dick energy.

Amy Taylor 1:09:40
Doesn’t even have to be from exactly a big dig. It can be from a great tongue, or awesome fingers. All of the above. Yes.

Kevin Anthony 1:09:47
Doesn’t have to be from a big that’s a whole other conversation. The whole big dick thing. I laugh about this all the time because every woman I ask is like, I mean, there are a few women that absolutely love big dicks, but most women don’t need a big dick. They just need an average size dick attached to somebody that knows how to use it.

Amy Taylor 1:10:06
Yes, and hands. Probably one of the more important sex organs. Yeah, everybody’s got a hand and tongue. And there are toys. Yes. All of that for sure. I’m sure. So thank you so much for having me and thanks for what you do.

Kevin Anthony 1:10:20
You are welcome. And thanks for coming on the show. All right, everybody. That’s all the time I have for this episode. And I will see you next week.

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