Kevin Anthony:
Welcome to the Love Lab podcast. The place to be for honest and real talk about relationships and sex. Whether you’re a man or woman, single or a couple, this is the show for you. I am your host, Kevin Anthony, and I am here to help you have the relationship of your dreams and the best sex of your life. All right, welcome back to the Love Lab podcast. This is episode 369 today, and it is titled Why It Matters to Know Who You Are as a sexual being.

Kevin Anthony:
This is going to be a really great conversation. I’ve been looking forward to it for a while, and the title, I don’t know if the title even really does it justice, honestly, but it was so hard to title this episode. Like, how do I explain what we’re going to be talking about here? You hear me talk on this show a lot about how your sex and your sex life are not separate from the rest of your life. And unfortunately, in our society, we tend to really, like, separate that out and compartmentalize it. And like, the sex stuff is this weird thing that you don’t want to really talk about and that you only do behind closed doors in the privacy of your home, but has nothing to do with the rest of, you know, your life over there.

Kevin Anthony:
And first of all, that’s just complete nonsense. And I talk about it a lot on this show. You know, I talk about how we have one animating life force, energy, which is our sexual energy. And when we repress that, we’re repressing basically our entire life in some way or another. When we free that up, right, we free up other parts of our life, too. And so what we’re going to be talking about today is basically why that’s important.

Kevin Anthony:
Why is it important for us to understand who we are as sexual beings, and how important our sexuality is to us as healthy and whole functioning human beings? We’re going to talk a little bit about where people go wrong and why. We’re going to share some personal stories about, you know, our own journeys. So it’s going to be a fascinating conversation. So if the title, you were like, I don’t know what we’re talking about today. I hope that clears it up at least a little bit, and then keep listening because it’ll make a whole lot more sense as we go along.

Kevin Anthony:
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Kevin Anthony:
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Kevin Anthony:
With over two decades of experience supporting people to discover their own Sexual Agency, Dr. Juliana Hauser leads conversations about taboo topics like sex and sexuality, menopause, intimacy, relationships, and more with approachability and expertise.

Kevin Anthony:
She has a PhD in counseling education, has a thriving virtual practice, is a beloved media personality on screen, on stage and in print, and is a TEDx speaker. Dr. J is also the creator of the holistic sexuality courses, including Revealed, and is the author of a new position on Sex, A Guide to Greater Sexual Confidence, Pleasure, and Authenticity, which is coming out, it says here, September 2025, but now is September 2025 as we are recording this. So we’re going to talk about that, uh, throughout the course of this show today. But welcome, Dr. J, to the show. It’s so good to be here.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
It’s so good to be here.

Kevin Anthony:
All right, you say that discovering who you are as a sexual being is the last frontier in self-development. Can you please tell the audience what you mean by that? Yeah, it’s. It’s a statement, right? I mean, it’s. It’s. It either lands, uh, or it’s a. Huh. Like what. What do you mean?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And, so how I look at it is our who we are as sexual beings has been misunderstood for so long that we, uh. Similar to how you said in the description of what we’re gonna be talking about, it’s just been bifurcated from who we are. Like, who we are as a sexual being is different than who we are in general. And as my work as a therapist collided with who I am, um, as a sex educator, and, uh, and also when I did acting, I did some acting in la, it. It came to be really, in a very obvious way, that they’re actually quite intertwined, if not the exact same thing. And so knowing who you are as a sexual being is a pathway of knowing who you are in general, as well as an expression of who you are. It’s the essence and the core of us.

Kevin Anthony:
Yeah, I completely agree. And it’s. That’s basically another way of saying what I was sharing in the intro, which is that these things are not separate. Right? Who we are as a sexual being is a critical component to who we are as a being. And for far too long, we have completely separated them and pretended that they were two different things. And that does a disservice to humanity, in my opinion.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Mine too.

Kevin Anthony:
So there’s that, and then there’s the idea that it’s kind of the last frontier. Right? So let’s just talk about that for a little bit, because I don’t know, it was maybe the 80s-ish or so. I think you and I are probably roughly about the same age, but I think it was around the 80s or so when, like self self-help started really becoming a thing, you know, and it has really grown now, and it’s this huge, you know, multi-billion-dollar industry of self-help. But one of the things I’ve noticed over a lot of those years, and it’s honestly the reason why I have a career at this point.

But what I’ve noticed is it’s been left out yet again the idea of, you know, developing who we are as a sexual being and coming into a healthy relationship with our sexuality. And so from my perspective, that’s why I see this as the last frontier. It’s like we’ve, we’ve had decades since the 80s. I’ve seen self-help around every aspect you can possibly think of. And yet the big pink elephant in the room is that we’re still not really talking about sexuality

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And we don’t know how to talk about it. Yeah, yes, uh, it’s, it is, uh, it’s shocking and not shocking to me that as much public speaking that I do and I speak at a lot of conferences and a lot of meetings that I will be the only person speaking about, uh, sexuality, um, or I’m invited to speak and I’m asked not to talk about sexuality.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I talk about the other work that I do and like, please, please don’t go there. And I see in this, you know, amazing wellness space that has all these experts and these amazing topics, sex is left out of it. And it is, it’s baffling to me that we don’t position sexuality in a sense, um, of normalcy, a sense of necessity and, and, and, and yet we have a media culture. It’s. Sex is everywhere. It’s used to sell the most unrelated things. And we position sex to be, uh, like the litmus test of how your relationship is doing.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And we know the statistic that they say sex and finances are what break up relationships more than anything else we say. It’s so important in so many ways, and then we do nothing to support its importance. We don’t properly sex educate, we don’t talk about it, we don’t put it even in our adulthood, even when it’s more sanctioned, quote sanctioned. Uh, we don’t offer it, and then we think people should be, uh, just healthy and happy and, and know what we’re talking about. And it, of course, that’s not how it works.

Kevin Anthony:
Yeah, and that is honestly why, a big reason why I keep doing what I do here on this podcast and with my work, because you and I were talking right before we hit record here about the challenges of being in this industry and how we are constantly censored.

Kevin Anthony:
And, you know, it’s. It’s difficult to be in this industry to try to get this message out, but because it is such an important part of what it means to be a whole functioning human, somebody’s got to do it. Like, there have to be voices out there talking about what it means to have a healthy relationship to sexuality. And like you said, you know, it’s used in so many unhealthy ways in our society. Right. That we need voices to overpower, that we need to be louder and more prevalent than the, um, the voices that are using sex in a way that’s negative. So I agree with you. It’s just so important that we have conversations around what does it mean to be in Right Relation or a healthy relationship to your sexuality?

Kevin Anthony:
One, just yourself as an individual, which is the next question I want to ask you. And then also, how do we do that with a partner? Right. So that leads me to the next question is, you know, what does it mean to know who you are as a sexual being? Like, if I’m listening to this and I’m like, okay, I’m curious, who am I as a sex? Like, what does that even mean? What am I looking for? What am I trying to figure out here?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Yeah, it’s. And it’s one of the few places where I think we do start with, like, what? Like, what do you mean? If we were to put it in different contexts, we’d at least have some guesses. But absolutely. And in my 20 years of speaking about this and learning and asking questions that that question has never had an easy answer, just despite where we are culturally. Uh, which says a whole lot.  So who are you as a sexual being? What that means to me is that you 1 understand the thing that we were talking about to begin with, which is that your sexuality is not separate from who you are. As the first thing you see, it is holistic.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
The second thing is, is that you see how we are misinformed about what the definition of sexuality is. And, And. Or, uh, perhaps a more accurate way of saying it is that we are only given a slice of what sexuality is. And when you’re exposed to a much deeper, broader definition of sexuality, like a holistic sexuality, then you’re like, oh, well, I didn’t know you’re talking about sexuality when you’re talking about that. Oh, okay, I get that a little bit more. But I thought when we say sexuality, we’re talking about who you’re doing, like what, what you’re doing with your body, and with whom are you doing it?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And that’s where it starts, and that’s where it ends. And when I was exposed to the concept of it being so much more than that, it was the light bulb, um, moment for me. And, and I can go back to the question that you asked previously, which is, why is it the last frontier? It’s, it’s one of the last frontiers of. Or it is the last frontier of self-development because we don’t know enough about how to look at it holistically and because we are misinformed and miseducated and don’t have a lot of space, safe places to talk about it. We don’t have the skill set to do it. We don’t have the words, we don’t have the practice.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
We don’t have the modeling of it. And it. And we have a culture that says that there is a right kind of sexuality and there’s a wrong kind of sexuality. And that takes a lot of bravery to then say, um, okay, ah, well, who, uh, maybe not. Maybe that doesn’t work for me. Or life forces you through something pretty hard that you don’t have a choice but to examine who you are as a sexual being. And that’s often where I meet people.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Uh, and so when I meet people in places where they’ve been harmed or they’ve experienced negative consequences from who they are as a sexual being, then we start with that. So, so, so let’s unwind. Let’s untangle what culture has told you the definition is, and who you are, as well as your experiences. And let’s talk about what that means to you. And often, uh, the answer is. Is pretty short. It’s, it’s a lot of I don’t knows. And, and I, I’m sure it’s a place where, where you feel really familiar as well, which is I, I embrace the I don’t knows. I think that that’s, it’s a, it’s a beautiful beginning. Not a place, um, that we have to stay in the grieving. But oftentimes the first response is a grieving response of I don’t know or I’m afraid to answer.

Kevin Anthony:
Yeah, I think you did a good job of answering that question. It can be tricky, and yet it doesn’t necessarily have to be. And what you shared was. The first thing is understanding that it’s not separate. Right? Your sexuality is a key component of the whole you. Right?

Kevin Anthony:
And then the other piece being, once you realize that and you want to make a, uh, you want to put some focus on understanding that part better, since most people haven’t, then it’s unlearning what you’ve been told and figuring out what’s true for you. And I think, which is exactly what you said, I’m just sort of distilling it down a little, a little simpler. But to me, that’s sort of the essence of what it means to know who you are as a sexual being. It’s like, I realize I am a sexual being. I realize that this is an important part of me being a whole human being. And then I go, okay, so a lot of my beliefs around that have been given to me from people who did not necessarily have my best interest in mind.

Kevin Anthony:
So what stuff is theirs and then what stuff is mine? And then, as you just pointed out, inevitably, when people go through that process, they realize, I don’t know what stuff is mine because I’ve never taken the time to figure it out. Right? And so that’s that, that sort of uneasy place that you were just talking about of, uh, the I don’t know. But here’s the beautiful thing about the I don’t know. You now have an opportunity to figure it out for yourself. And that’s where some of the fun comes in. You get to experiment, you get to ask yourself questions, you get to try new things, right?

Kevin Anthony:
And the beauty of that, and this is true of any self-help. It doesn’t matter what it is. People go through this exact same process with, say, spirituality and religion, which have been a huge focus of self-help for a long time. At some point, they realize, my whole life I have believed X system or belief system, because that’s what was given to me. And I was told this, this, and this about it. And then they go, is that really true? Because I see there’s this and this and this over here. They go on this journey of exploring it all till they come back to a place where they find what feels true for them.

Kevin Anthony:
And I think it’s the same thing here with sexuality. So that place of feeling uneasy about the, I don’t know, shouldn’t necessarily feel uneasy. Or maybe I should put it this way: it’s okay if it feels uneasy, because then you get the opportunity to go on what could be a fun and life-changing journey.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I love how, um, you put that together. And, I would say what I see next is what are my options? So I don’t know, it’s like, what, what do I choose from? Uh, which again is a pretty exciting place. I love it when I get a version of that question. And then invariably what I see intertwined between that is the knowing, which is, I do think most people, if they’re going to step into any, uh, to this topic, most people have an inherent knowing that who you are as a sexual being reflects a lot of who you are. And there’s a lot of fear of what that means. And so after you get it and you say, I don’t know, what are my options? A lot of people are like, Ooh, what are we going to uncover. And what does that mean? Or like, what are you going to think? And, and what, uh, what am I going to think of what I uncover?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
So a lot of people will stop there, which is like, oh, this feels like I’m opening up Pandora’s box and I’m just going to, I’m going to go back to prioritizing grocery shopping and, you know, my exercise regimen instead of who I am sexually. Because we, if you are uncomfortable with any part of your sexuality that has popped up, um, which most people have places of being uncomfortable because of the rules that other people have put onto sexuality, there’s, there’s, uh, quite a fear of being different, not being normal, your interest being uncommon or your experiences being terrible or, or different than other people. Then it’s. It takes a lot of bravery to keep going in that place.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And what I know you and I have both seen is when you can get through that part of the examination and, and reside in the, in the fun of curiosity, then you are about to experience the most incredible transformation. And I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but it’s, I feel in some ways that, you know, my journey is, is, uh, unlikely, uh, to have resulted in where I am. Started off as a kindergarten teacher. That was my first job. And here I am as somebody who speaks about sex and sexuality all over the world.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And yet I am the exact person who should be doing this and talking about it too, because everyone can be an expert in who they are, um, and have the responsibility of knowing who they are sexually.

Kevin Anthony:
So I had another question I was going to ask you, and it has just completely left my brain at this moment. So we’ll just move on to the one I had after that, which is because that one was not written down. It was just something that popped into my head as I was listening to you speak and then, I lost it. Sometimes that happens, you know. I get it.

Kevin Anthony:
The second question, uh, actually I think it’s the third one, is probably going to be uh, the most difficult question I ask you throughout this entire show. So I hope you’re ready for it. We’re talking about this idea of, you know, discovering yourself as, you know, a sexual being. And one of the things that I love to do on this show is kind of lead by example. So I’m wondering, how would you describe yourself today as a sexual being?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Hm, mhm. Would say, uh, it’s great, you know, and I’m not even sure I’ve ever been asked that. And I get asked a lot of questions. So, how I describe myself, I would say I am open to new discoveries all the time. I love finding edges, and I love experiencing myself as I approach an edge, and I get to know parts of myself in how I negotiate with myself or around somebody else, um, what those edges are. Um, I am, ah, as a sexual being. I’m somebody who feels a lot of comfort in the process of asking myself questions and sitting with the response to it. And, and I know that that may in some ways sound vague, but it’s, it’s the constancy, uh, it’s, it’s where I, it doesn’t matter what the topic or the context is, that is, it’s frequently where I show up, which is I like being challenged.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I like finding new places and in the specifics of who I am in like sex acts or in. And even sensuality. The things that are a bit more um, on the nose when we’re talking about holistic sexuality as opposed to some of the other places that may feel more adjacent. I, when I am exposed to so much of other people’s sexual lives and I hear so many other opinions and I hear so many experiences, I know that I have a desensitization to a lot of things because, you know, not a lot of things are new to me now. But I, I’m, I’m desensitized in a way of exposure, but I still find new places for me to explore in, in the way that I express that in my own private life.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And I find that difference to be pretty interesting, um, and a, uh, lot of fun. All right, good job. Good job. That was a difficult question and I’m not surprised that nobody’s really asked you that before, but, you know, again, the point is, like, you know, we’re telling people here that it’s important for you to understand who you are as a sexual being. And so, you know, I thought it would be cool for two people because I’ll. I’ll give myself to. Yeah. You know, two people who’ve been on this journey for a long time and what we’ve kind of figured out thus far.

Kevin Anthony:
So for myself, I would say that as a sexual being, I’ve always been curious. I have always been the type of person who was like, well, I know that’s what they say, but is that really true? And I do that in every aspect of my life. Uh, so that has left me in a position of experimenting a lot. So I’ve tried a lot of different things. I figured out what I like and what I don’t like through that experimentation.

Kevin Anthony:
Uh, because now I know what I like and what I don’t like and what I want and what I don’t want. I’m far more confident, uh, in my sexuality. Uh, it’s also helped me remove, uh, a lot of shame, uh, that was there. So, you know, I. I don’t know. I mean, I can’t say there’s zero shame, and I’m 100% kind because, you know, absolutes are a little difficult. But, like, I feel like I’m in a place in my life now where nothing really fazes me.

Kevin Anthony:
I don’t get weirded out about stuff. I can show up, you know, I was invited to a party not too long ago, and I’ve been to a lot of sex parties, but they’ve generally been what we consider, like, conscious sex parties, you know, and I got invited to one by somebody I’d only met once before as a friend of my partner. And it was way more on the swinger side than I’m used to. But because I am confident in who I am as a sexual being, and I know what I like and what I don’t like, what I want, what I don’t want. I can speak up about it. I can set boundaries.

Kevin Anthony:
I was not at all phased by it, and I went to it and there was a lot of stuff happening that I didn’t want any part of, but that was perfectly okay. Right? And so that has been a big part of my journey and coming into, uh, uh, what I would consider a healthy relationship with sexuality. And it’s what allows me to do what I do here on this show and with clients and with making courses. And things like that, like I don’t have that weirdness around sexuality that most people do. I do a video on what men think is a good blow job. A video I wrote in like five minutes.

Kevin Anthony:
I just sat down and I go, what do I think is a really good blow? Like, what do my guy friends talk about? I wrote a list, I made a video, I threw it out there. It’s got like half a million views at this point, right? I don’t even know how many comments. And I was like, oh, wow, okay, I guess people want to know about this. Let’s make a course about it, right? Like, not too many people could really do that. But that only comes from having done this work in this journey. Which leads me to my next question.

Kevin Anthony:
I know we talked a little bit in the pre-interview about your journey. I’m wondering if you could tell the listeners a little bit about your story, your journey, because like you said, you started you were a kindergarten teacher, right? Uh, and now you’re doing something completely different and you’re in a completely different space as far as your relationship to your sexuality. Tell us a little bit about that journey. How did you get here where you are?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Yeah, and I would say too, actually, I think like sitting or standing in front of 20 5-year-old kindergartners is, is scarier than standing up in some ways too. Uh, quite an edge there. Although I loved it. So I would say my story really begins with the context of my family that I was born into, that my dad was a radiologist, my mom was an ER nurse. And so there was, they saw the worst of everything and the worst-case scenario of everything. And that absolutely spilled forward to uh, who we were as sexual beings. And in our sex education, it was a lot of do not do this, or this will happen. And that was mixed with uh, I came into the world, as you said, like a very curious person.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
My sister used to have an older sister. She used to cry and say, make her put her clothes on and I was like running around as a five-year-old naked. And I didn’t understand what was different about that. Or I was described as precocious because I was always asking questions, and nothing, uh, it never made sense why it was a, uh, why was this topic so different to ask about when I was seeing it everywhere or whatever. My young version, my brain could see it, and yet I had this parallel experience happening that I was a people pleaser. I wanted to be a good girl, I wanted not to be in trouble. I wanted to be wanted.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And. And I didn’t know how to. How to combine all of those? Those various things. And I didn’t have an outlet to go to either. I’m, um. I’m 53, and the Internet wasn’t. It wasn’t in existence. And, you know, there was a lot of. Of ways. Unless you had, like, somebody who had, like, a hustler, you know, in their bathroom from their dad or. Luckily, uh, for me, I had a friend that I call my sexual Sherpa. And she and I asked each other questions.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I mean, I love to hear some of our conversation now. I’m sure the conversations were, like, horrifying to hear what we were acting like we knew, but it was really my first experience of. She was. We were equally curious, but she was doing it and I wasn’t. And so I got to hear what her experience was from the things that we were wondering about. And she didn’t shame me for not doing it, and I didn’t shame her for doing it. We. We really got to have our own agency in that process.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And that really carried through a lot of my life. Through college and in my first, uh, marriage. And, um, after my master’s degree, I went to LA and acted for a while. And I had this acting coach who, um, was in acting. You don’t say no. So if you say no, that means you aren’t brave and you can’t get the role. And she, and this one acting class, asked us what would be the scene that would be the worst thing to have to do.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And I was one of the first people to go. And I said, a seduction scene. And the next people. The next person looked at me and was like, Uh, murdering a child or incest. And all the other options were very terrible, uh, and obvious. But it wasn’t for me. It was absolutely truthful. If I had had to seduce somebody, it would be the one scene I drove. I could absolutely get into the other ones. And so I knew as soon as I heard, like, the third person goes like, oh, my gosh, she is gonna make me do this.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And. And so she did. And she’s like, I want you to seduce Price. And. And I knew I was gonna be terrible. And I was absolutely terrible. And, uh, she said, what do you think, Price? And he’s like, that was not good. And, uh, I sure, you know, it was shrinking as I walked back to, like, the circle. And she asked another woman to do it. And she’s like, well, how is that, Price? Price? And he could barely speak. Like she had done an incredible job of it.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And she looked at me, and she’s like, Whatever that was, fix that, Juliana. You gotta fix it. And I, I remember thinking, what is it that I have to fix? And how, how do I fix it? And that’s really, honestly, where I had the combination of like, who we are as sexual beings is who we are. But I, uh, I didn’t have that wording yet. Uh what I, what I felt was, I thought I knew who I was, but I was really just performing. I didn’t really know the truth of who I was because everything that you described as who you are as a sexual being was the exact opposite of, uh, who I was.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I did not know my boundaries. I did not know how to have the words to say yes or no. I didn’t. I thought performing sexually was what you’re supposed to do. And I didn’t know there was another option, uh, until I, I met, um, someone that I dated for five years, and he was the first person that stopped and said, but what do you want? And, and m. My answers felt so immature that, and I was 30, and I didn’t have an answer that was interesting at all to him. And I didn’t love it, I didn’t love that.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Uh, and he was very sexually experienced, and he is like, no, no, no, we don’t move forward until you know what you’re. Yes. You know, basically he didn’t say that, those words, but basically he was like, you need to know or, you know, we’re not going to do this. And, he was very patient and found that out with me, and let me have my own space, and when I started doing that and discovered on my own, I was like, oh, this is so much better. This really is different. When I’m authentically asking myself what was the biggest problem that I never stopped and asked myself, do you want to be doing this? And what do you like?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Uh, it wasn’t, it wasn’t. The problem didn’t start with somebody else; it started with me. Isn’t that true of pretty much all of our problems? That’s true, yeah. And that goes back to your original question, which is when you know who you are as a sexual being, it changes everything. Because that skill began for me in sexuality, and it was really the only place that it could have woken me up like that. Uh, I had done a lot of self-development. I was already a practicing therapist, but it hadn’t landed in such a core way as it had with my Sexuality.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Because I had, I had really kept it at a surface level. And when someone said fix that, that, and I asked myself, fix what? I took the onion layers down to a much deeper level. And once you see it, you can’t, um, unsee um it. And once I realized what was missing in me, I just couldn’t accept less. And I’m grateful for him, uh, for, for saying that to me, um, and, and staying the course.

Kevin Anthony:
Yeah, and I would say too, actually, I think like sitting or standing in front of 20 5-year-old kindergartners is, is scarier than standing up in some ways too. And I think that is a, that is where a lot of people are at. It’s, it’s that idea of you don’t know what you don’t know. You don’t even know that you don’t know something. So when somebody tells you to fix it, you’re like, fix what? Like, I don’t even understand what it is you’re talking about. Right. So I think conversations like this, uh, have the potential to help people answer that question of what? The thing that I, that I kind of, you know, spaced out on earlier was this idea that you were talking about, um, you know, experimenting and figuring out what it is, you know, getting ideas and trying things.

Kevin Anthony:
And I was like, there are now 369 episodes of this podcast. If you want to know what is possible in the realm of sexuality, just go listen to all those episodes. I talk about everything you can think of that will at least pique your curiosity. I can’t think of. I, you know, I met with, uh, somebody who, um, is now, ah, a new client of mine, a new coaching client of mine. And one of the things she told me when we had our initial strategy call was she said, I’ve listened to every episode of your podcast and know 360 something at @ the time. Right?

Kevin Anthony:
And it just blew me away. And I was like, That is amazing. First of all, thank you, thank you for listening to all of those. But that, to me, that is somebody who’s in this inquiry, that is somebody who wants to know, who is open to figuring out what it is they don’t know, and trying different things. And so that’s, that’s just one example of that. So if you get to that place where you’re like, fix what? Listen to those episodes. If you have strong negative reactions to any of them, that’s the what.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Exactly. And again, it’s, it’s, it’s so brave. I wish it wasn’t Something that you had to have bravery and wit to walk through. Because I wish it were so much more accessible to us and so much more normalized and infused throughout our culture, culture and throughout our relationships. But it’s not. So it does require work, and it requires like, even like when someone walks into a workshop that I’m teaching or if they’re speaking going to my talk when they have 10 others to choose from. There is bravery in saying I would like to hear someone who’s talking about sexuality. I wonder who else is here. There’s a lot to claim it.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
It’s not just me claiming it, it’s also those saying I’m interested. I could choose something else, but I’ve chosen you. Instead of just accidentally like falling into this room and, and I, I think even just that skill that you have to work, uh, even just a little bit, even if it’s just a five pound weight, you know, and as a metaphor makes a difference that infuses to other areas and it be in making a choice to, to examine who you are uh, as a sexual being ends up becoming the example of why you should because it will, it will change you. And when I think about the question, when my acting coach looked at me and said, You know, fix that shit, fix whatever this is, like fix it. I love that I now, you know, 20-some years later, can say, I’m not sure I would say fix is the word, but I would say I’m still looking at it.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And I love, I mean I think it’s another reason why it’s the final frontier is that uh, sexuality is fluid, there’s fluidity within it, and that word can be used differently. But really, what I mean is it interacts with your timeline, it interacts with your lifespan, and it interacts with your self-knowledge. So it’s never a one-question what I’m quoting. Although uh, I don’t use that word the same now. I love that it changes because I’m getting to know different parts of me that is again to draw the parallel to pretty much any, you know, deep interpersonal work. It’s not like I figured out the answer and that’s it, it’s, it’s now engraved in stone for the rest of this lifetime.

Kevin Anthony:
Like who we are as individuals is always changing, and what we might want or need in the realm of sexuality will change as we end up in different relationships as we get older, as our bodies change, things like that. So yeah, that’s an important point to make. That is an Ongoing process, but so is personal development. It doesn’t ever actually end. Which sometimes, for some people, is like, fuck, right? But you got to, you’ve got to reframe that, and you got to just realize that that’s what this life is actually about. It is about the journey. It is about the process of, uh, learning and becoming the best version of ourselves.

Kevin Anthony:
And that doesn’t end. That doesn’t ever end. And so you just have to embrace that is, that’s what it’s all about. You can make it hard, but it doesn’t have to be. You can also make it more fun and easier. Doesn’t mean it’ll always be fun and easy. Sometimes there are really challenging moments, but it doesn’t have to always be that way. So I suggest that you have a little mental reframe on that.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Agreed. And I love it too, like when, because sometimes it doesn’t happen this way, and it just comes for you. If something hard happens within this context, then you really don’t have a choice but to examine it. It just, the choice becomes how deeply you examine it. But I, I love it when people get ahead of it themselves that they, they approach the topic and they begin a relationship with, with their own sexuality on their own terms and in their own timing. That, that’s really my favorite way. But that’s not how life does it. And I don’t know if you live, if you, you know, if you live a certain amount of time, its sexuality is going to just come knocking on your door, and, and um, who’s going to be the person that answers? Oh, there’s a question. Who’s going to answer that door?

Kevin Anthony:
The question is, do you answer it, or do you just keep hiding behind the door? Right? Which is something that a lot of people will do as well. Okay, I need to take a short break and when we come back, I want to talk at least a little bit about the nine pillars of holistic sexuality. Because we’ve kind of, you know, I threw out. Oh. If you want to know what the possibilities are, you know, go listen to my podcast. Okay, great. Thanks, Kevin, for promoting your podcast. But, but I think what will make this even more clear is if we start talking about the different areas, uh, of holistic sexuality that might, you know, get people to understand.

Kevin Anthony:
So we don’t, we won’t have time to cover all nine of them, but at least we can mention what they are. We can dive into a couple of them, and I think that will help people understand more about how to go about this journey. But first, are you a couple? Are your relationship and sex life where you want them to be? Are there changes you would like to make but just don’t know how? Maybe you think there is nothing that can be done. If you’re not 100% happy with where your relationship and sex life is, then get help today and change your life.

Kevin Anthony:
Go tohttps://www.kevinanthonycoaching.com/couples/ and schedule a strategy call with me today so we can map out a strategy to get you where you want to be so you can have it all your way. That is https://www.kevinanthonycoaching.com/couples/ book your strategy call today. And of course, at the end, I will give Julian an opportunity to share where you can find out about her work and her books, and all the ways that she is also trying to help as many people as she can. Okay, let’s talk about the nine pillars of holistic sexuality. Uh, first I’ll just. And I hope I wrote them down correctly. You can correct me if I, I, I did not, but I wrote them down.

Kevin Anthony:
So rather than asking you to remember all nine off the top of your head, let me just read them, and then let’s just pick a couple and talk about them. So obviously, we’re using the term holistic sexuality. Holistic means encompassing the whole of something, not just isolating things. We know that generally when we tend to isolate things and try to view them in a vacuum, they don’t always work the same way that they do in the whole. Right? A perfect example of that is, let’s isolate a nutrient all by itself, and then, oh, it either has an effect or it doesn’t have an effect. But then we put it back in the whole of everything, and suddenly it does something completely different.

Kevin Anthony:
So we want to look at sexuality holistically, not just picking out individual pieces and isolating them. So you have what you call the nine pillars of holistic sexuality. They are sensuality, uh, wellness, slash fertility, desire, pleasure, intersecting identities, power and trauma, sex acts, connection, and relationships. Did I get those right? Okay, good. And agency, the hub of all of those. Which we will definitely talk about also. Um, let’s just pick a couple out of here that maybe seem less obvious to people.

Kevin Anthony:
Uh, I don’t know. I think wellness and fertility may be pretty obvious. Like your physical body has to function. Uh, so if you’re having challenges with that, you know, most people, we go, yeah, my whatever’s not working. Let me go to the doctor. Okay. Okay, that one’s pretty obvious. How about power and trauma? Let’s talk about that a little bit. How. What does that really mean?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
It’s. So, power is inherent in any relationship, and sexuality is no different. A power within yourself, or if you’re doing it with other people, interacting sexually with other people, then power is going to be a dynamic that you need to acknowledge and explore. And there are a lot of things within our power that we can look at. But in essence, what we’re looking at in holistic sexuality is how power intersects, how it informs the relationship, and in what ways do you interact with it. And that is anything from, uh, the, uh, a lot of things within sexual violence to flirting and seduction. And it’s really interesting because when I first started doing this work, I thought, like, I’m going to be like, like the tears are going to come when we’re really talking about the obvious awful things of sexual violence. And what was surprising to me was actually when I started asking questions about flirting and seduction. That’s actually where I saw a lot more tears and a lot more, um, shame and confusion.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Um, our culture is doing a better job of speaking about sexual violence. Not perfect, preventing it, but speaking about it. But when we are asked, like, well, Kevin, who are you as a flirting person, and how do you flirt? Or how do you know when someone’s flirting with you? And a lot of times people will say, Oh, uh, you know, that’s not me. Or, or they are really. They say, yes, I am. But they’re not sure how to make it in a detail and they’re not really sure how to describe who they think they are with it or, or what it means to seduce versus what it means, means to flirt and how, how have you experienced those things yourself or, or doing, you know, how someone other, someone else experiences you? So it’s interacting with the power of your sexuality and the, uh, the dynamic of sexuality in and of itself.

Kevin Anthony:
Yeah. And that is an area that I think a lot of people, maybe it’s one of the, uh, if they get there, it’s one of the later ones that they probably address. Is that, that idea of power, this is one of those areas, depending on how it’s used, this is one of those areas that I think BDSM can do a good job of helping people understand. Not saying you go, you have to go out and get really into BDSM if it’s not your thing at all. But what they do do a good job of there, when it’s done right, is playing with those power dynamics and helping people understand what they are and giving them language and tools to be able to navigate power dynamics in a safe way. But that’s more of an advanced skill

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I agree with you and all your caveats of like when it’s done right, and you know, all of those. I say the same things, and I also want it to be an entry point for everyone. I want everyone to have it. There are different levels. Like earlier, when you’re like that, that’s the more they advance. I agree they’re are some things that have levels to it, but everyone experiences some kind of power differential, uh, with it. And you can either choose to be proactive in that, um, or reactive, and I prefer proactive across the board.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And I agree. In that world, when it’s done right, um, I have found it to be incredibly healing, and I even recommend it for people who’ve experienced trauma, with priority parameters that there can be a lot of healing that is done. It’s kind, you know, and it’s controversial. Some people think people are interested because of drama and healing, and of course, there’s always that element. But I have actually seen that in that world because consent and proactive communication, when it’s done right, is such an integral part of it that that alone gives someone agency, and they get to have a different, uh, relationship with either just choosing to submit or choosing to dom.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And that being able to have agency can’t change what’s happened to you, but it can change your way of making meaning of it now in your trust of yourself and your trust in other people. And I have a, uh, personal experience with shibari, which is, you know, the art of rope tying or silks. And was in a group, uh, a large group of women, women only. And um, when someone came to speak and to do a demonstration of shabari, a group of women got up and left. And um, and I knew in that group that those women had experienced sexual violence. And one of them knew that I had as well and came over to me and said, Are you going to leave? I was like No, no, no, no, no, I’m going to stay.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I want to always. I’m always somebody who wants to at least do something once, try something once, and just to see. And, and I, I was not afraid, afraid of that experience, and, and no harm to, to those who knew that they needed to leave. But I ended up volunteering to be the person that, um, the expert tied. And the. The experience of, uh, choosing to allow myself to not be in control and to not have the power felt quite powerful. And. And even with somebody whom I didn’t know at all. And we had to build trust very quickly and had to go through, you know, some of that very. I had to just. Just trust the trust and. And that I couldn’t believe how. How great it felt, how exciting it felt, and how I felt differently afterwards.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Um, and. And that’s when it really wasn’t in the best of circumstances, ideal in the way that it went about. When I’ve experienced it, when it is more ideal, it’s even tenfold that it’s not for everybody. That’s not everyone’s story, and it’s not right for everybody. But I. That’s why power is one of the last. Power and trauma is one of the last pillars that I introduced to people because there’s a complexity to it that you have to know how to go through other ones first. Not. The other ones are simpler. They’re not. But. But the latter ones are. The order is on purpose. And power and trauma have layers that you can miss if you do it too soon.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Uh, it’s also a reason why I ask people to go through it multiple times so that you, uh, you get it, and then you can really get it. Yeah. And that’s kind of why I said it’s more of an advanced skill. There are definitely other things that you would want to tap into prior to getting there, but it does have, uh, uh, a definite possibility of being very healing and profound for some people.

Kevin Anthony:
I have a different client right now who. That’s one of the things. And not. Not BDSM specifically, but, you know, she had a complicated past with sexuality growing up and all of that stuff. And so one of the things that I said to her was, okay, what we need to do is get you into an environment where you can experiment safely with boundaries and trusted people and resources. Right. And so that. That’s something that. That we’re working on. Uh, she’s in another country, so I’m in the process of trying to find a facilitator that I really trust recommending to her in her home country. Uh, but I was happy to hear you say that that’s something that you will, uh, often do with clients as well when they get to that point where they’re ready for it, because I do think it has potential, potential to really help people? Let’s just pick one or two others here. Let me say this. Are there any others in here that, uh, you think it’s really important that we should talk about?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Yeah, I love talking about sensuality. It’s the first pillar, and it’s not because it’s the most simple, um, or the easiest. And I, I originally thought that, which is why I put it first. And then I saw how much there was for people and saw that it actually was really difficult. But I, because everyone had, just like everyone that has sexuality, everyone has sensuality, and they may not know what we’re talking about.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And so it’s, it’s uh, not everyone has all five senses, but everyone has access to some level of senses. And if you do have access to all five, then you have a variability within that. And so it’s, it’s a, it’s a common ground where we can begin. But yeah, there is so much richness to unfold in it. And people often misunderstand sensuality and sexuality, that they think it’s the same thing, and they’re not. Or they have a view that a central person is the right kind of sexual person, and the central person has, like, there’s often like a stereotype attached to what that central person looks like, sounds like, and talks.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And when you discover, especially if you don’t look like the stereotype of that or seem like that, when you discover no, no, no, you are, you are a central being inherently too, then I have seen it be incredibly powerful. It is also a place that is rich with the ability to enact your agency. Lots of places where you get to say yum or yuck and yes or no to it that, um, don’t require a huge amount of risk-taking, but do give a lot of information back. So it becomes foundational for the other pillars in which to ask yourself a yes or no. When you’ve practiced it on all five senses, when you’ve experienced, explored that, uh, you have, have really done a deep dive that springboards you into the other ones.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
When you were talking about, uh, you know, the idea that people have of what they think someone who’s sensual is like, I got this, this image in my head. Uh, I was looking for this for years because I had seen it many, many years ago. And then I couldn’t find it for a lot of years, and I finally, about a year ago, I found it again, and I posted it on social media. It’s a clip from a comedy, um, show. I don’t even remember the name of the comedy show. It was a sketch comedy show, and it was this guy, and he’s basically talking about, uh, his path through Tantra, and that he’s so like, uh, in touch now that he keeps having like, orgasms nonstop throughout the entire time he’s talking. And it is hilarious.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
It’s, it’s not too far buried in my Instagram if anybody wants to find it. But it is absolutely hilarious. And I think sometimes that’s, that’s the idea that people have in their minds, right, of somebody who is sensual. They’re like, oh, everything, oh, you know, kind of thing. My view is that, uh, she had long, flowy hair and she wore skirts and didn’t wear shoes, and she just talked like this. And she was just really. She smelled delicious. And, and, and that is beautiful and fabulous and, and, and not me. And, and, and not a lot of people, but yet we all are equally sensual.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
It’s it. And again, the confusion of sexuality and sensuality is important to clear up. And I like getting at that first too. And it’s so exciting to me when somebody starts reticent to get into sensuality, and they’re like, oh, I like, okay, Juliana, like, yes or no? Yes or no? It’s a yes. And then they’re like, I want to tell you this is such a yes for me, or this is absolutely a no. And they, the confidence and excitement they have to. Self-discovery becomes contagious. Uh, I, um, have an example. Could give an example.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Um, uh, I had this one couple, uh, that came to me. Then they gave me permission to share, and they were really about it. They were about to break up, which is often what I’m getting. And their reason was that they really felt sexually incompatible. And his viewpoint was that she wasn’t sensual enough and that the kind of sex that she liked to have was not interesting to him. And, and, and he really positioned it as wrong. And, she came and said, You know, I’m, I feel very vanilla.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Um, and I, I really don’t find excitement, and I can’t get turned on with the things. Basically, she’s like, I’m a dead fish. I am not sensual at all. And, I knew I didn’t often do this, but I knew that I needed to do some work with her separately to cut. To figure, uh, out if this was accurate or this was just the story that was being told. And I had her go through this. This list, as we went through, um, the. This book. The book that I have is based on a course, and I had to go through the course. And when we got to the list of sex acts and she was going through. Through them, she was the least.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I don’t love the word vanilla anyway. I don’t love putting values to it, but the woman had experienced a lot of things and she had done a lot of sex acts. And I remember sitting there going, like, what, what. Why did you describe yourself as this earlier? Like, your list is much bigger and wider, and you have a lot more experimenting than I have. I’ve heard from a lot of people. This is fabulous. Like, what? Why. Why do you have this mismatch? And it was because she was positioning herself from her partner’s point of view.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And so we got into the sensuality. And by the way, she wouldn’t do sensuality first. She’s my only, ever my only person that said, I’m not starting here. . And so I knew that. And so we came back to it. And she grieved a lot about it and just kept saying she was afraid to find out that she wasn’t sensual. She was afraid to find out that he was right. And we weren’t having a lot of nuggets come up. We weren’t finding a lot of things until we got to touch.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And I had her do, uh, an exercise about finding what things, what different textures she liked on her skin. And she came back and realized that she loved the feeling of simulated sheep wool on her. And I was like, great. And she’s like, is it though? I mean, I don’t know if it’s so great. I was like, no, that’s. We found a yes. Like, this is beautiful. And, and she. When she came back the next week, she came back and she’s like, you’re not going to believe this. It’s everywhere. I have a rug. I have it in my car, like the back of my car. I had bought a special.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And she’s like, I actually have a vest that is sheepskin. And she’s like, I did know it. I knew it all along. And I, I, uh. And it just. The light bulb clicked on for her. She’s like, I. I am a sensual person. And, it. And it was this cascading effect of. I’m valid. I am valid. The way that I show up in the world as a sexual person, as a sensual person, is good and right, and it just isn’t aligned with this partner. And that does that. Uh, we don’t have to make him right or wrong, and I don’t have to be right or wrong in this.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
But her discovering it on her own and finding her yeses and no’s with that kind of confidence changed everything. And the relationship did end, and it needed to for a lot of reasons. But who she was and how she talked about herself moving forward was absolutely different. And it would not have come up had it not been for examining who she was in her senses. Yeah, you know, we don’t have time to go into it, but this idea that the relationship ultimately ended and it should have is definitely something that comes up from time to time. And I, that I talk about. It’s like, you know, you’re. You’re generally coming to me because you want to save the relationship, whatever is happening, whether it’s relationship stuff or sex stuff or both.

Kevin Anthony:
But not every relationship should be saved. I do my best, but every once in a while, and it doesn’t happen very often, every once in a while, we get to a place where we go, you know, you both would be better off. Uh, yeah, with a compatible partner, everyone’s going to be happier and be okay. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Uh, we’re pretty much out of time, but we have to at least talk about one last thing, because we’ve kind of talked about it here and there, but we haven’t really gotten to it. And that’s this idea of agency. You’ve brought the word up a few times. You’ve mixed it in with some of your explanations. Can we just talk a little bit about, you know, how does agency factor into these pillars?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Yes. So agency, in the shortest definition, is learning your terms and learning how to live your terms. So what are your yeses and no’s? Which means that you have to know yourself. You have to do the work to authentically answer, is this a yes or no? Is this a yuck or a yum? And then learning to have the skills to enact your agency, like to enact your terms to, to have relationships that support that, that want to hear your yeses and no’s, and have their own yeses and no’s.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And that you realize that knowing, uh, who you are and knowing your terms and living them is not just your right, it’s your responsibility. When people are acting in the knowledge of the truth of who they are, and making decisions with purpose and intention based on the truth of who they are. They make decisions that are aligned, blind, and that have a ripple effect of positivity for themselves and the people in their lives. And when more people act in agency, then we see communities and families and cultures and countries behaving in a way that is supportive of humanity, uh, instead of it being something that is destroying that. And that may sound like a strong statement, but it is an absolute truth.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And I, I see, I see the difference of somebody who has done the work to be able to say, uh, this is my yes and this is my no, and is a person who receives the yes or no and separately from somebody who is only individually focused, either in an entitled or an empowered way, and is able to be relational. The difference of that is, um, I mean, it’s, it’s palpable. So basically, getting to know who you are as a sexual being then allows you to operate with agency. Yep, it does. Because if you have the. I, um, use this word a lot. But if you have the bravery to say, ah, an authentic yes or no, and who you are as a sexual being, it’s exactly how you described who you were at that party, which is how you feel safe.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And, I think ultimately agency is an act of self-trust. And when you trust yourself, then you get to interact in the world differently. When you don’t trust yourself and you don’t trust the world, there is a synergy to that distrust that makes you show up differently in any situation and you become either someone who is afraid of a lot of things which doesn’t feel like living and doesn’t feel vital, or you are somebody that people become afraid of because you act in ways that, that are dangerous to other people, because you’re not considering other people, because you don’t know how to consider yourself. Well, I knew asking you that question about agency was going to open up a whole bunch more questions, which we don’t really have time for. But I have to ask one more in relation to this idea of agency.

Kevin Anthony:
So you’re talking about people asking themselves, you know, am I a yes to this? Am I a no to this? I would like to add one thing to that and then, uh, get your take on what I say, which is basically it’s one thing to ask yourself, are you a yes or are you a no? But the next level below that is Why are you a yes or are you a no? Because if you ask yourself, I’m a no to this, uh, am I a yes or a no to this act? You go, I’m an absolute no. Okay, maybe you’re not because that’s just not in line with your values. Great. But maybe you’re a no because there’s an underlying trauma that could be healed.

Kevin Anthony:
And if you had healed that. It’s like the women who got up and left, they were a no to shibari, but they were a no to shabari because there was an underlying trauma. And so, you know, I just kind of wanted to bring that idea up that it’s not just as simple as asking yourself, am I a yes or a no? It’s helpful to get to the bottom of why you are a yes or a no to certain things. What do you think about that?

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
Uh, it’s an absolute yes for me. I agree. I mean, I agree wholeheartedly with that. And I think it’s the next round that you do. And, it’s. To me, it’s. It’s also why agency is so powerful. And how you just described it is even the difference between being empowered and being an agency, which is that you go to the next layer of it. And I, I agree. I think there are a lot of things to. That you can find when you say the way I, that I ask is, um, you know, let’s. Let’s explore how you got to that yes or no, and where is the beginning point of that, or where do you have those curves in it? And I will always say when I’m asking somebody their yes or the no, I will say, let’s write it in sand and not in cement, because there could be a time, it could be tomorrow, it could be in three years, that it becomes a, uh, yes or the yes becomes a no.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
And so I want you to have an answer with purpose and intention, and I also don’t want you to hold so firm to it because you never know what could happen when you ask yourself it a second time or a fifth time, which is different than second-guessing. It’s when you ask the why or the tell, uh, me more aspect of it. Then I think you really get into the depth of the self development development part of sexuality.

Kevin Anthony:
Yes. Well, Dr. Juliana, I want to just say that I’m grateful that there are people like yourself out there who are helping people figure this out, because it is so important. And if we want to come back full circle and talk about how, once we figure this complicated piece out that has so much dogma and just misinformation and negative energy around it, then we can actually sort that out and get to a healthy place.

Almost everything else in our lives is at least some percentage better than it was before. So it’s just so important that. That people do the work, and that they have people like yourself to help them do the work. I feel the same way for you, too. I appreciate your work, what you’re doing

Dr. Juliana Hauser:
I feel the same way for you, too. I appreciate your work, what you’re doing too. It makes a difference. And we know, uh, it’s not easy for. For you and I to be in these spaces. It feels worse to not be, uh, like, because once you get it and. And once it’s changed our life, it’s. It’s really hard to not want to share that and to say this isn’t the only way that we can experience this. And, um, so I’m grateful for you too.

Kevin Anthony:
Well, thank you. All right, uh, before we get off, please tell people how they can find you, uh, and you know what your website is, anything that you want to offer them.

Dr. Juliana Hauser:

Great. So I’m, um, M. Dr. Juliana Houser on all social media platforms. My website is Dr. Dash Juliana, and I have a newsletter where I do different content in the newsletter than I do on social media. And so I love it when I get to interact with people in my newsletter. And. And, uh, then my book comes out, uh, in the end of September, September 23rd, and it’s on all online platforms. And I love it when people write me and tell me what they think about it.

And there’s a part of the book that I’m really curious about how it’s gonna. How it’s gonna go. At the end of the chapters, I have a QR code that takes you to, um, a part of my website where I have more people sharing stories, um, about each of the pillars. And, uh, they’re in audio form and they are in written form, and more information about each of it that had to be cut because the book can’t be 500 pages. I’m really hoping people will go there, and there are places to submit your own stories, um, and to submit your questions, and I’m really looking forward to that. Growing.

Kevin Anthony:
Awesome. Well, I wish you great success with that. I think, again, what you’re doing is awesome, and I want to thank you for coming on the show and sharing it today.

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