Why Your Sex Life Is An Essential Part Of Your Personal Growth

Kevin Anthony 0:05
Welcome to the Love Lab podcast, a safe and fun place to get real and learn about sex. Whether you’re a man or woman, single or couple, this is the show for you. I am your host, Kevin Anthony, and I am here to guide you to go from good to amazing in the bedroom, and your relationships.

All right, welcome back to the Love Lab podcast. This is episode 308. And it is titled, Why your sex life is an essential part of your personal growth. And I have a guest with me today who I will introduce in a minute you may recognize her if you’re a longtime listener to this show she’s been on before.

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Okay, Today, my guest is Susan Bratton, she is one of the very few guests to ever make a repeat appearance on this show. She is considered the intimacy expert to millions and is a champion and advocate for all those who desire intimacy and passion in their whole life. She is the founder and CEO of two companies Personal Life Media, as well as the 20 LLC. If you haven’t heard of those before, there will be links in the bottom so you can go check those out and see what she is up to. She’s also the best-selling author and publisher of 44 books and programs including Relationship Magic, Revive Her Drive, Ravish Him, The Passion Patch, Hormone Balancing, and Hot to Trot. And if you have been following any of the products, you know, on our website, we have a whole section of products, you will see some of Susan’s products on there. So you may be familiar with them already. So Susan, welcome to the show.

Susan Bratton 2:32
It is my honor to be invited back again. I remember what a good time we had. So I’m happy to be here sweetie pie super happy about it. And I love the topic that you picked. Because, you know when you go through my material, I’ve been doing this for so long. There’s a lot of stuff we could talk about. So I like what you chose. I was excited to see you today too. Because we we did a you know pre-interview to talk about what you might be interested in for your listeners. And after 307 shows. I wanted to see what you picked. And I love the topic.

Kevin Anthony 3:08
Yeah, you know, when we started this show, you know, I knew that I had a lot to say, but I had no idea it would be anywhere near 300. I was like 25. I don’t know 50 Maybe if we’re lucky. 308 is incredible.

Susan Bratton 3:27
That is one of the things I wanted to ask you was in the years that you’ve been doing your show, what do you think were some of the kind of maybe that’s some of the aha moments, some of the best things you learned? Because you have put so much time and energy into producing this excellent Love Lab show? What were some of those big ones for you?

Kevin Anthony 3:49
That’s a really great question. I love how you’re turning the interviewer back on me. But here’s what I would say about it, in general, is that while I felt like I really had a pretty broad knowledge, and I felt like I already knew a lot when it came to teaching sex, love, and relationships, not only the process of researching the episodes that, you know, I or Selena and I did on our own, but also, I have had now somewhere around 110 guests on this show, who are experts in every aspect of sex, love and relationship you can think of. And I always learn something from the guests that I have on the show.

So I feel like at this point, I’ve basically been through a Ph. D program in sex, love, and relationship because there are very few experts out there that I haven’t talked to and picked their brains on and read their books. Whenever they send me their books. I read every single one of them, which always amazes people. So yeah, other than picking out very specific things. I would just say that it’s really important to receive my knowledge and my skill set when it comes to not only my own personal life, but also, you know, helping other people through my coaching. So it’s been great. It’s been, it’s been amazing to be able to put information out there that helps people and I get amazing feedback all the time. And at the same time, it’s it’s literally like I like I said, I feel like I’ve been through a Ph. D. program. Hmm.

Susan Bratton 5:23
You know, one of the things that I’ve really been helped by in doing hundreds of podcast appearances over the years, close to 1000. Now, one of the things that popped into my mind when I asked you the question my brain answers to, and the diversity, equity inclusion consent piece of things, has been because I primarily deal with and am kind of immersed in the world of heterosexual monogamous couples, I’m really 90% of the time trying to help a dude and his lady just have hot sex, that’s my thing. So I’m not a therapist, or trauma healer, or any of those things. I’m really on the plus side, which is how to make your sex life super fucking hot. Like passionate, hard, connected, conscious lovemaking is my phrase.

And so I don’t get into so much of the other pieces of sexual growth and expansion, outside that kind of heterosexual monogamous world. And I’ve learned a lot from my hosts about that. And the other thing that I’ve enjoyed talking to podcast hosts, is because pot podcast hosts like you doing 300 shows, you do have a wide, you have the breadth and a depth of knowledge that we could not have had before the advent of podcasting. 15 years ago, you could only get so much out of reading a person’s book, what you get out of having a conversation with them is so much richer. And so one of the things that I’ve also enjoyed is how many great questions podcasters have asked me that have incremented my thinking, my knowledge, my analytical skills, how I stitch things together, finding new ways to explain things verbally, that people can just like, implement immediately, that will have a massive change for them that I think that discourse, the dialogue of what we’re talking about, and especially how it fits into our changing cultural mores. We are so different now than we were a decade ago about our approach to sexuality.

We’re much more aware of the kind of how it’s been so patriarchal versus matriarchal, we’re getting the, you know, the women’s way of needing sex much more in the conversation, we are much more open to kink and BDSM em and not looking at it like it’s Friday, but literally understanding that those kinds of things can be healing, how women are starting to become much more embodied and sexually empowered and moving from more of the passive receiver to being constantly switchy, which is, I think, a big part of the sexual maturation piece that you want to talk about today. Just the access to so much more information where like even a simple thing, like people used to think that female ejaculation must be a and now you don’t hear that as much. And now you’re starting to hear about things I’ve been talking about for two decades, you know, releasing your feminine waters of being divine nectar, how Amrita is something that allows women to really more fully live into their sexual potential, the same for your power and mastery course, like letting them know that they don’t have to suffer with premature ejaculation.

They can have unlimited stamina, they can have multiple male full-body orgasms, and they can feel less performance anxiety and more confidence in doing what they want to do, but by just by all this awareness that’s been created. So it’s just a real joy to be back here in the saddle with you again, and I’m going to flirt my ass off with you because you’re so handsome. And we have agreed in advance that we have a safe space to be appreciative of each other’s sexiness. I mean, when you are a sex educator, you better be walking your talk. You better be sexy, and you are doing it. Thank you so much. You’re looking more handsome, more gorgeous. Then you ever have in your life?

Kevin Anthony 10:01
Well, thank you so much. That is very lovely to hear. And yeah, I absolutely love the flirtatious energy. We did talk about that ahead of time. So, yeah, if anybody’s listening, we did consciously agree. We consented to flirt with each other. Which is so nice.

Susan Bratton 10:20
Yeah, that’s playing a higher game knowing that you and I both enjoy the flirt. Nothing will come of it. It’s appreciation, adoration, encouragement. Just letting people know that they’re sexy, beautiful, interesting, desirable. I mean, when I thought we have this old perspective on oh, you know, like, you could flirt with someone or your partner will get, you know, upset about it, you should never be doing them. It’s like, no, let’s all flirt with each other and have a good time. We know where our boundaries are. We’re grown as adults, we can handle ourselves. So to let all those things you’re thinking about how much you appreciate someone not be said, is like some old Victorian puritanical control mechanism that I do not subscribe to. And so I like to flirt my ass off.

Kevin Anthony 11:24
Well, go right ahead. It’s a time. You, by the way, are also looking very beautiful today. And I have to admit, it’s really hard to focus on your eyes when you are busting out of that shirt. That blouse.

Susan Bratton 11:39
Guys love the gaping button on a blouse. Like there’s something about a gaping button where you’re like let those titties be free.

Kevin Anthony 11:46
Right. And the thing is, I can’t see anything and I know I can’t see anything and yet I keep trying so yeah. All right.

Susan Bratton 11:56
That’s a lean toward. Oh, I have to say the same thing for you. Because I’m thinking that I really want you to flex your biceps for me because look, look at mine right now. Boom. The heart is a rock. Yeah, that looks good. You’re you’ve been working out there.

Kevin Anthony 12:14
Uh-huh. Yeah.

Susan Bratton 12:15
I really think that men’s biceps are the equivalent of boobs, for women. I know for me personally, one of the things I love to do when I’m having sex with my partner, is I like to grab his biceps and just like hold on to them and squeeze them and like really turns me on as much as when he’s grabbing my boobs and squeezing my boobs. I love that too. And I didn’t used to even like to have my breasts really, really even touched it. It took me until I was in my 40s before I realized that I even had nice boobs.

I didn’t even know and I think so many women don’t enjoy the full pleasure potential of breast pleasuring nipple stimulation, and nipple orgasms, I mean, they are one of the three erogenous zones our lips and mouth, our breast tissue and our vulva and vagina Yoni, I like to call it and so many women think there’s something wrong with their boobs because they’re not like whatever like looking like these big giant fake boobs that a lot of women have and, and they miss out on the E verted. clitoral erection, which is your clit tissue, all that erectile tissue in your vulva as a woman, which is as much as our male body partners in their penis, it’s a lot of material in there. It can get in gorged from nipple stimulation and kissing. And when women are kind of like no breast touching, they’re really leaving a lot of sensation, not just breast a nipple sensation, but the actual orgasmic clitoral sensation on the table. And so I think just biceps squeezing, breast squeezing, there’s something about those mechanisms in our body that signal more pleasure pathways to our brain and help us expand the intensity, duration, and amount of orgasmic joy we can co-create.

Kevin Anthony 14:33
Absolutely, you know, most likely if women don’t like having their breasts touched, there’s probably some trauma there or something away that’s blocking that. So this is a relatively good segue into some of the questions because what we’re really talking about here today is personal growth, but how we can use sexuality as a path towards personal growth. So the first question I have for you is You know, we’ve been alluding to it kind of dancing around it so far, but let’s get really literal with it. Like, let’s tell the audience, what does sexuality have to do with your personal growth? How are they possibly connected, when you are out there in the self-help world, it’s like sexuality is over here, personal growth is over here. But they’re not actually separate. So talk a little bit about that.

Susan Bratton 15:21
Well, two things that strike me immediately. One is that as you mature, your sex gets better and better and better over time. Because, like, anything, mastery comes from practice. And so you literally just have more practice, you have more experiences, you have more opportunities to get good. And so sex keeps getting better and better over time. If you put your intention on growing your sexuality, if you think about your sex life as part of your personal growth, and you’re like, I just want to keep learning about it. I want to keep applying new things, I want to try new techniques, I want to learn more communication skills in the bedroom. I want to keep my genitals working well. So I want to know about intimate wellness and sexual biohacking sexual regenerative therapies so that I can keep going, I don’t have to worry about having erectile dysfunction, or for women, painful sacks and things like that. And so how do I keep making like my vagina now is juice, you’re more orgasmic than it has ever been in my life. And I will be 63 this month.

Kevin Anthony 16:36
Gratulations on that!

Susan Bratton 16:39
I’m cumming so well, in so many different ways. And this from a woman who like 42 Almost got divorced, because I’ve been having sex with my husband for 12 years. And I’ve never had an orgasm from intercourse. And we’re like, we have to be able to figure this out. Like, we’re smart people, what can we do? And that set us on the journey of everything from walking on fire with Tony Robbins to understanding our relationship values to go into human awareness Institute and tantric workshops and orgasmic meditation, you know, learning techniques and experiencing things and working with a therapist to overcome my traumas from the past, which were definitely holding me back, I was just social thing. It’s hard to have an orgasm when you’re not able to stay present during sex, you know, so there was radical honesty starting to just be very, very, very truthful about everything.

It’s a life changer, just to not have to walk on eggshells, you know, withhold or you know, sugarcoat things, but just to be able to be in a primary relationship with my husband of 31 years this week. Congratulations. Yeah, 31 years 33. Together, we’ve been together longer than we’ve been apart now. He is my life person. But it really changed when we started getting honest about everything together. And it allowed us to have hard conversations and hard is often admitting your own foibles, insecurities, you know, your own, whatever it might be your own issues. And I think that really contributes to your overall personal growth when you have loving relationships that are completely honest and straightforward. I’m not even friends with people anymore, who are kind of checked out around honesty, who are living in the kind of old societally prescribed paradigm I just don’t even want to hang out with those people I’m kind of super choosy about being with people who are into authentic relating.

If you can learn that in your sex life that applies that begins to apply to everything you do you just become a more centered, grounded authentic person. So that’s one thing is that your sexual maturation you know, and your sexual growth informs your personal growth, I think there are two sides of the same coin, very similar to how libido and your overall health are two sides of the same coin. libido is not an alternative mechanism. libido is one of those vital signs of your health. And if it’s depressed, you know that there’s something else going on inside you. It’s not your libido. It’s some other things. So I think that’s one thing. The second thing is that I think there is a level so that grounding that authenticity is one. The second thing that I think is very, very helpful is that having great sex really grounds you it reboots your nervous system. It It allows you to generate oxytocin, which is the antidote to cortisol spikes that come from stress and nervousness, and generate a lot of loss of sleep and ability to get rest and recovery which you need. It also has a cascade of neurotransmitters serotonin and dopamine and feel the trans neurotransmitters that are very important.

I really think that if our society if our culture wasn’t so sex-negative, if sex wasn’t so censored if the only kind of sex that you can actually see is like the stupid Hollywood bullshit old paradigm of sex and pornography, which is generally degrading to women. And so the only kind of cultural things that we have out there are things that really hurt us. And so then that keeps us from having this kind of pleasurable heart connected, passionate, conscious, lovemaking, and then we don’t have the rest of our life doesn’t go, well. How can we be like, self-empowered outside the bedroom if we’re not self-empowered in the bedroom if we’re not getting all of the physical and emotional benefits of sex, if we’re on antidepressants, and all we do is spend our time Doom scrolling and watching Netflix, we’re just basically capitalistic pawns, staying keeping ourselves alive on someone’s Ultra-processed foods and you know big pharma medications.

So I kind of feel like your sexuality is like your motherfucking anarchy, it’s like your way to opt out of somebody else’s vision of how they’re going to manipulate you as a pawn. Where you take back your pleasure, your connection, your love, your expansion of your heart muscle and feel more joy, sensation, and orgasm. And knowing that orgasms are learned skills that you can just keep getting, there are 20 Different kinds of orgasms your body can have. And really 21 Now I’m up to 21. And 21 is a wild card because I’m always finding more ways to have orgasms. So, you know, it’s just like, there’s a fork in the road for a lot of us And frankly, Kevin, people who listen to the Love Lab have taken the form of health and, and sovereignty. And people who can’t bring themselves to listen to podcasts about sexuality are just kind of like they’re going to live a shorter shittier, less healthy, less empowered life with less joy and less pleasure. So I choose, I don’t want to go red pill blue pill, because I’ve been co-opted, I just choose the sensual pleasure path of love and connection and honesty and authenticity. And my time is my own and my joy is my own. And I certainly know how to create more joy from a loving, sexy connection.

Kevin Anthony 23:10
Wow, you said so much there. And I tend to do that sorry. It’s great. It’s great. It’s just I was thinking to myself, There’s no way I can possibly respond to all of it because there were way too many things. But there are a couple of key things that I did want to talk about, just kind of following up on what you said. One of them is the idea that if you’re really going to improve your sex life because the reality is most of us had terrible role models growing up around sexuality, especially here. In the West, we weren’t really taught sexuality in any healthy way. It was basically a Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell kind of policy. We learned maybe through some porn, we heard things from our friends, you know, whatever it is. And so because of that, we don’t really know how to have great healthy sexual relationships. So then we have to go learn it.

But when we go to learn it, we’re inevitably going to bump up against the traumas and the programming and the societal pressures and all of those things, right? So the only way we’re ever going to improve our sex life is we’re going to have to deal with those issues as well. Right. And so that just kind of want to reiterate that point, when we’re talking about how personal growth, our own personal growth, and the growth of our sex life aren’t separate. And if you work on one, you’re going to inevitably have to work on the other. Now, let’s say you had nothing to do with sex at all, and you just wanted to go on a personal growth journey, you’d eventually come up to you come up to some parts of yourself revolving around your sexuality that you weren’t even meaning to look at. And you’d be like, Oh, crap, now I got to deal with that, right? Yeah, yeah. So no matter which way you you, you choose to start that journey.

You’re gonna have to eventually Willie come up to, I got some negative stuff around my sexuality. And if I can figure out how to fix that I’m going to improve not only my sexuality but the rest of my life as well. The second thing I wanted to point out also this, that you kind of just dropped in passing, but it’s something that I’ve talked about quite a bit on this show, which is the idea that our sexuality has been used to control us for centuries. Why? Because it’s our life force energy. And if you can dictate how we use that lifeforce energy, you get to control us, right? So this whole idea of breaking out of that is a huge piece to what I want to help people, you know, learn through the work that I do. And I just know that that, yes, that will empower your sex life, but it’s going to empower the rest of your life outside of that as well. So those are a couple of huge sort of truth bombs that you dropped there that I kind of wanted to reiterate to the audience to make sure that they really heard those because they’re really important.

Susan Bratton 26:02
Good. Thank you. Yeah. When you start to think about how manipulated we are around our sexuality, fucking pissed about it. You know, you realize holy cow, man, like, I can’t advertise my passionate love making videos. Oh, I know. I’m the antidote to pornography. Right? So we are constantly censored, constantly throttled, blacklisted, you know, what have you. Being in our business is a labor of love and passion because it is not a you know, it is not like when you think about personal growth, there’s health, wealth, and relationship. Those are the three big categories. And if you’re in health, you can do pretty well, in you know, business, if you’re in wealth, you can do really well-helping people make money, people will spend money to make money.

But if you’re in a relationship, even relationship content is censored. Because nobody, nobody in social media, or online websites advertising, the brands don’t want to be adjacent to anything that smacks of sexuality. Like it’s some horrible thing instead of a healthy thing. Now these are starting to change like I was, it’s so funny. So you know, my, my, my business is I read a sex tips newsletter, people subscribe for free, but I promote products in my newsletter. And I was just thinking that some of the products that I’ve been promoting recently are certain whole food derived supplements that help with overall health hormone balancing, a lot of testosterone and estrogen production, precursors, things like that simple things like minerals, and what have you.

And I was what I’m really good on lately as a Jag to find products that are whole food are naturally derived, rather than synthesized in a lab. Because so many, so much of what we’re ingesting is synthesized in a lab and I’m really interested in eating well and exercising every day. And supplementing because our food sources, you know, that our soils are depleted and, and we’re an athlete, and we’ve got a lot agribusiness now because they’re so damn many of us in this world, wriggling around. And I was thinking about how kind it is that the brands who partner with me are in my newsletter, and I’m talking about taking sperm, Adan from Ramadan, the 12, you know, to reverse the 12, home set nine of the 12 hallmarks of aging.

And then in the next feature in my newsletter, it’s like, how to give a Deep Throat blow job without gagging and what, why the gag is actually the beginning of the orgasmic contraction, or whatever a million different things that I write about, you know, like, exactly where to find the second structure of the G spot, you know, and here’s a giant vulva illustration with a big arrow showing you where it is, you know, next to you know, oyster Max made by a marine scientist and his family who farm in invasive but healthy species of oysters out of the Irish coastal waters, and hand stuff the capsules so you get real food derived iodine, which you need for thyroid metabolism, which keeps your cells functioning and grew, you know, really grew then that comes from a natural food source next to an article about how to get your wife to want to have sex with you again to the point where she’s begging you and setting up dates, because you just been treating her like a dude and stuff. have like a woman and here’s the things women need. And it’s just this simple. It’s just like, love for, you know, allowing me to support them and their amazing work making real products with my blow jobs and my G spots and my get your right to fuck you.

Kevin Anthony 30:21
Yes, yes.

Susan Bratton 30:24
It’s happening is that people are becoming more open. When you have a trustworthy brand, I have a trustworthy brand, I’ve been doing this for decades, I’ve got a large following, you know, it’s, so I’ve proven over time like you have that we’re, you know, solid, not nutty because there are a lot of nutty people in the sexuality space, who come into it through the trauma window as well as I did. And, you know, they haven’t quite gotten all the work done yet. And so there are I’m sure you’ve had a few guests on your podcast where you like, I might need to edit that part out, that’s just total fucking bullshit.

Kevin Anthony 31:04
This is one of the reasons I do pre-interview costs. I can I can suss that out pretty quickly. But you’re right in, in this industry. And this is true in, you know, if we want to call it the conscious communities, or the spiritual communities or whatever terms you want to use, people will have an awakening in one small area of their life. And suddenly now they’re like, I kind of teach to everybody. And they’re all over the place with their new websites and their podcasts and their everything. And I’m going to teach because I’ve got it down. And really, they’ve got a small fraction of it. And even that small fraction is only the beginning of the journey. And yet they’re out there spewing stuff all over the place. So that is kind of a tricky part, in, it’s not so much tricky for people like you and I.

But it’s tricky for the people out there who are trying to weed through all of the possibilities, all the different podcasts, all the different newsletters, all the different whatever. And like who is the person that really gets it, and that is really putting some good truth out there? And then who are the people that are basically just full of shit, it’s not easy to tell, necessarily. And to make it worse to your point, we get massively suppressed across everything. And I can always tell, you know if you think what you’re looking at in your analytics is organic, wait until they make a little change and accidentally open the door for you a little bit. This happens every once in a while. And all of a sudden, you just see your YouTube channel, your podcast, your online sales will just spike and then all of a sudden, boom, they’ll just crash it right back down again.

So you can very clearly see in the analytics, how much we are being suppressed and manipulated by the system because they don’t want information like this out there. I mean, we tried, like you said, you can’t even advertise relationship stuff. We tried to advertise our programs on social media way early on in the beginning, and they just immediately shut us down. So then we were like, where are we going to advertise? We’re like, Okay, what if we advertise in places like Pornhub? Because at least they’ll lead us?

Susan Bratton 33:09
Right? And then where we end up being porn adjacent.

Kevin Anthony 33:12
Which we didn’t want to be? We don’t want that. No, but you know, we learned about that you’ve probably seen this too because there’s an important lesson, we learned the hard way on that one, too, which is that the people, the audience over there, were only looking for quick fixes. So we got massive clicks, tons of traffic through the advertisement because the people you could advertise there and the people were interested. But as soon as they saw, Oh, like it’s a whole program, you mean I actually got to do work. I can’t just pop a pill and suddenly be fixed. Right? It didn’t equate to huge sales. So we realized that wasn’t the right place for us. So it’s challenging saying this information out there.

Susan Bratton 33:53
Thank God for podcasts. And thank God for you hosting one and doing 308 episodes. God loves you for that. Because yes, I know. And it is the bastion of free speech right now, which is fantastic. It’s the one place where we can still say anything we want to say. And so what do you think we should do? Where do you think we should go right now with how can we be of most help to your listeners now that they know that they’re like, Oh, we’re getting we’re getting the pure shit right here. What do you think is the most powerful thing we could talk about right now?

Kevin Anthony 34:27
Most Powerful? That’s a good question. We’re about halfway through. So I’m gonna pause to do another ad. But I did have a bunch of questions about the differences between male and female arousal and yeah, men and women approach arousal and when it comes to arousing their partner and that kind of stuff, so that could be something interesting to talk about.

Susan Bratton 34:46
I’d love to do that. What are you going to do for your commercial?

Kevin Anthony 34:49
Well, because if you haven’t realized yet, the majority of ads I do on this show are for my own products power and mastery.com is my own website. My listeners, of course, know that and the next one is literally going to be for my coaching program because I can’t advertise it on social media. Yeah. Do it on my own podcast.

Susan Bratton 35:10
Great. Well, tell me about your coaching program. So who are you? Who are you attracting and helping the most right now? What is what’s the typical like, you know, experience to work with you like?

Kevin Anthony 35:23
Yeah, that’s a great question. I’m going to abandon the canned ad here that I read all the time. And I’m just going to talk a little bit about it. Okay. Yeah, good. So I am currently working with men, women and couples, which is a little bit of a shift for me because I traditionally always worked with men. And I was working with men around things like, you know, erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation into just how to be a better lover, right? How to really show up for the woman, not just like, Okay, there’s the lasting longer piece. But then there’s all the other things like, what does she actually want? Right? How does she want you to show up? You talked about a lot of these things being present, right? There are so many other aspects to sex other than just like, okay, the penis goes in the vagina, right?

I mean, there’s an entire module in there that I teach people around female anatomy, where we go into all of that stuff that you were talking about, about, you know, most people think the clitoris is just that little teeny piece that you see, you know, sometimes sticking out and sometimes not, right? And there’s so much more to it. So really go into all of that stuff. And that was primarily where my focus was when my wife Céline was alive. And we were working together, she was covering the women’s stuff, you know, she was teaching them how to female ejaculate, and, you know, she was going into, you know, all the different apps, you know, teaching them Jade eggs, and that kind of stuff. And then we would come together and teach couples, you know, now that she’s not here anymore. Like I originally just said, I can’t I can’t work with women the way that she did. And so I just pulled all that stuff down from the website.

And I just stuck with what I was doing. And then over time, it’s really opened up and people have been wanting more stuff right now I’m also doing a collaboration with another company whose entire focus is women. And I’m coming on and coaching all these women, and they’re absolutely loving it. I’m like, I never thought that I would just be coaching women on like, sexuality and relationships, right? Because I was like, Shouldn’t a woman be doing that? But the thing is, is they love getting the masculine perspective, because it’s like, as men we go, other women are an enigma. Like, we can’t figure them out. We don’t understand them. Could someone please explain it to me, right? But women are on the other side going, I don’t understand why men do what they do. Right? So there’s I realized there’s there’s a whole amazing niche there for women to be like, Okay, come work with me, I can help you with sexuality stuff. And I can help you with relationship stuff. And I can really give you that male point of view of what’s going on in our minds. Why do we do what we do? And how can you work with that, right?

So that’s a lot of what I’m doing. I love also working with couples because I get an opportunity to get both halves of it. When I work with just a man or just a woman, you know, I can help him and I, I’ll tell him all the time I go, regardless of how she responds to what you’re doing, you just have to keep doing it, you have to be the best version of yourself. And you will see the relationship shift. However, you’ll see it shift even more if she’s doing her part too, right? Yeah. So when I get to work with both of them, then it’s even more powerful. So yeah, that’s, that’s the stuff that I do. It’s I actually really love doing it. You know, sometimes you’ll see coaches, they get kind of jaded when they’ve been doing it for a while. They’re just like, I don’t want to really work with people anymore. Just buy my products and be done. You know, and I get it, I do get it. But I still I still love working one-on-one with people. And so yeah, that’s every show, I’ll read some version of an ad, you know, aimed at one or the other. You know, maybe it’s aimed at men. Sometimes it’s aimed at women. Sometimes it’s aimed at couples, but the essence of it is if you want to go on this personal growth journey, improve your sex life, and go to some of those places that you mentioned, 21 different kinds of orgasms in the best sex of your life and, and wetter and juicier than you’ve ever been in your 60s. Right? Like all of that stuff. Like that’s what I’m doing in my coaching.

Susan Bratton 39:30
Yeah, yeah, that’s so great. I’m glad. I’m so sorry about Celine. And I’m so glad that you are continuing on and carrying the torch. I can’t even imagine how that you know, in some ways ruined a big part of your life and was a I mean, I just am so sorry about that. It’s really super, super sad. I just shudder at this. thought of having to lose a partner. It’s something no one should ever have to go through. And the fact that you are still here, giving your heart and finding joy, and supporting other people, even through the grief that you are still dealing with, is, you know, in a way, I’m sure that the people who work with you, when they, they choose you, and they ask for help, that’s a gift they’re giving you. You know, it’s definitely enriching you and using your talents. And that’s, you know, that’s just that’s joy when your talents get used and leverage that so joyful. So yeah, I just, I did want to just offer my condolences and, you know, deep regrets about that. You too, are a beautiful couple.

And on the eve of my 31/31 anniversary, I, it makes me realize how incredibly lucky I am to have the longevity of my relationship with my husband because we’ve been through thick and thin over and over life is a series of mountains and valleys. That is for sure. And, you know, but at least even in the valleys, we are still together. And that’s why working with sex. Not having good sex can be the death knell of a relationship. Not only that, it can be the death knell of your life, you can be that person who doesn’t have that good life. And so the opportunity to work with somebody like Kevin, and to be able to have his loving heart and experience guiding you into more pleasure and possibility. And personal growth is, you know, something really special. So if you’ve been thinking about working with him, I just want you to do it. If you’re listening to us right now, Falcon, do it. Have some sessions with him. He’s fabulous, man. Nice here for you. He wants to give you the love and the, you know, pleasure that you deserve. So if you’ve been like sticking your toe in the water, jump on in.

Kevin Anthony 42:18
Well, thank you for that. I do appreciate that. And it has been it’s you know, it’s it’s easier now. There’s been enough time that’s gone by but it has been really difficult to continue to do this without her, however, right? She dedicated her entire life to doing this work. And so for me, it was like, the best way to honor her would continue it.

Susan Bratton 42:44
Yeah. Yeah. You guys are so cute together. And we’ll always have that. Yes, yeah. And you’ll have this again.

Kevin Anthony 42:55
I hope. She was literally the perfect woman for me the most compatible human being on this planet that I had met and still, to this day have met. So it’s it’s a huge loss and at the same, like on one hand, you’re like, how is that even possible to replay? How was I even lucky enough to find it to begin with? So yeah, that’s how it feels? Well, sometimes, but I do know it’s possible.

Susan Bratton 43:25
It is and I’ll tell you something, you probably don’t know that I’m polyamorous and have been for my husband and I have been poly for 20 years, over 20 years. And I have the perfect husband for me. But I also have the perfect boyfriend for me. I’m going to Thredbo with two men. And they’re both perfect. And I love them both so much for completely different reasons. So will you ever find someone who’s exactly likely? No. You will not. But will you find someone equally perfect in their own way? Do you have more life lessons, adventures, and experiences in front of you? Yes, you do. And I don’t prescribe polyamory for people. I’m not one of those people out there saying you should be poly everyone should be poly. Poly is amazing. Oh, it’s fucking hard. You have to really play a very high game in that world. And that’s what I like. I like the higher games. That’s that’s just what you know, excites me. And so there are other loves out there for you and because you loved her so much. You will love again and you will love even more. Because of what I have learned from one of my mentors, Dr. Deb, Dr. Deborah Anna Paul, she wrote a beautiful book you might have read it. You’ve read so many books, called the seven natural laws of love. And

Kevin Anthony 44:52
I have not read that one but I am familiar with it.

Susan Bratton 44:54
It’s a pretty little book and what that actually described and she passed away. Now we lost her a few years ago, very suddenly. And so you never know when your moment is so you better just live your life to the fullest and have the hottest Sex and the most incredible orgasms you possibly can. Because you never know, what are you waiting for? But one of the things that she explained to me was that our heart is like a muscle in a door. That’s how I described her work, where it gets bigger and it works better the more you use it, so it’s like our biceps, but it is also when you love you actually feel more love than when you receive love. When you give love when you put out love, you actually have the feeling of love in your body and your psychic energy more than when you are being loved. And part of that is because it takes a lot for us to take in love.

And it almost can overwhelm us it can almost be too much of a sensation. Just like pleasure when people are first starting to learn how to have really good orgasms when they’re getting their Yoni massages when they’re getting their clitoral erections. When they’re having their first G Spot pleasuring when they’re a Jackie lady for the first time, it’s almost hard to stay in the sensation. You want to get out. Because it’s so over so overwhelming. And that’s sometimes how be how it can be. If someone’s loving you, you’re almost like you want to escape from it. But when you love you can stay in it a little more easily. And so loving, loving, loving, just everybody giving it up giving it out, giving it out, it gets that muscle going. So that when people start to love you, you can take it in I was giving my daughter that lesson at dinner last night I was telling I gave her some kind of some kind of a compliment. I we have this game we play in our family. It’s called Three Things I love about you.

And you can ask for it anytime you want to. And I ask for it almost every day because I love adoration. I love verbal adoration. I don’t think there’s such a thing as a praise King. I think that’s bullshit. I think everybody likes to get praised. And it’s not kinky. It’s normal and natural. And we’ve been conditioned through this, you know, Victorian puritanical, you know, an oppressive construct that we have in our culture to feel like we shouldn’t have appreciation. And if you can’t take in a compliment. When you’re like, the very first thing you do is you begin to negate it. Oh, no, I you know, I’m not that good. I’m not really, you know, this person so much better than I am. I’m there’s so many. And I caught her on it. And I was like, hey, just say thank you and take it in. You’re incredible. And I just want you to feel that you don’t need to shut that out or shut that down or deflect that need open to the appreciations. It was just in that moment that she did that she usually is quite good at taking them in. And I think that that loving game of the three things that I love about you is like a muscle it gets easier to do over time and we try to never say the same thing twice. We try to keep coming up with new things we love about a person. Can I do it for you right now?

Kevin Anthony 48:43
Absolutely. Okay,

Susan Bratton 48:45
So well, one of the things that I love about you is I would say just how easy you are to talk to how you are in your presence and the way you are is easygoing and expansive and open and willing to really listen and hear and take things in. Not like cold and resisting and judgmental or superior. You’re like right here with me. Your ability to be present is very sexy. And makes me feel like you love me and you care about me. And you want to know what’s going on with me. I love that about you. The second thing is you’re super hot looking. I mean just the fact that I get to spend an hour looking at you on this video. Holy shit. Are you a good-looking man? I mean first of all, I would really love to see you with that hit with your hair out of your ponytail with that long hair flat because I love that you Am I typed that way? Oh, wow. Oh, he’s gonna take it out. Yes, thank you.

Kevin Anthony 50:06
Oh, geez, I got my in-ear monitors.

Susan Bratton 50:09
Yeah, there you go see oh, I just love that. That looks so good. Beautiful. Haha. Gorgeous. I love your handsome face, your beautiful body, those sexy biceps, you look like you would be a really fun to fuck guy like strong and a nice size to grab. And I like that you’re very masculine, but you have a softness to you that’s very inviting. So you’re physically hard, mature emotionally, you have a soft heart, a soft sweetheart, which is such a nice combination. So super hot and sexy. Like, if you were my boyfriend, I would be asking you to slowly take all your clothes off and dance for me and flex your muscles for me and stuff. That would be so much fun. I would want to objectify your hot ass so cute.

Speaker 1 51:17
Oh, absolutely. I love every bit of it. Yes. You’re very good at this game.

Susan Bratton 51:22
Yeah, well, I’ve had a lot of practice, you get better with practice. And then I would say number three is I liked your consistency. You are who you are. And you just keep fucking showing up as that man. And that’s a that’s a man that a lot of people love, respect, adore, and appreciate. And so if you are listening or watching this podcast right now, and you haven’t like written a review for Kevin have replied to one of the emails he sent you or let him know how much impact he’s having on your life. Okay, do it for him. He is an extraordinary man, pouring his heart and his soul and his love into making your life better. And I just really want to thank you for doing that, too. I love that about you.

Kevin Anthony 52:08
Well, thank you so much. That was lovely. I’ve never been appreciated like that on this show before.

Susan Bratton 52:13
Good. I like to model good behavior.

Kevin Anthony 52:17
And you did an excellent job of it. So I’m like I’m a good girl. Good girl. And probably bad girl at times, too. Oh, yeah. Oh. Well, I’d love to share some appreciation back towards you. If I could?

Susan Bratton 52:38
Yes, let’s do it. I love I love it.

Kevin Anthony 52:42
One thing that I love about you is your absolute openness to all things sexuality, you do not hide it, and there is no shame about it, which is something I’ve always tried to model myself. And people will say, Oh, and you know, you make it easy to talk about. But you’re exactly the same. Like it’s just you can talk about anything, you know, regarding sexuality and make it fun, and make it you know, have no stigma attached to it and make people want to know more and learn more about it. That is a beautiful quality because we’ve talked about multiple times throughout this show about the oppression that has happened and the suppression that still happens in our industry.

And so we need more people like you who can actually destigmatize that and show people how normal and beautiful sexuality is just the way you are sitting there right now, again, about to pop out of your shirt with your legs spread, you’re totally open. Yeah, exactly. But it’s beautiful. It’s beautiful. And it puts people at ease and makes them more open to these ideas. So I absolutely love that about you. Thank you. You know, I would also share, also that the first time that we had you on this show, I mean, you’re a very big name in this space, right? A lot of people know who you are. You’ve been around for a long time, like you’ve said, and we were like this little nobody shows and you’re like, yeah, come on. Right. So this just willingness to show up regardless of Oh, you’re not, you know, some big name in the industry, I won’t even talk to you kind of thing is also really amazing.

And you You gave us kind of a strategy that we have followed ever since then, which is you know, you said to us, you’re like, I don’t care, you know, how big or how small you are, you’re like, I’ll go on any show. I want to get this message out there. Right. And we’ve always taken the same approach as like, I’ve been on shows where they were like, their fifth episode ever, you know, as well as being on shows that, you know, we’re, we’re the 400th episode, you know, and everything in between. So, it’s really just not about having big ego. It’s just about trying to get out there and help as many people as you can. And so, I learned that from you early on, and I appreciate that. Thank you. And I also love how honest you are about your own life and relationship. Maybe people didn’t know that you were poly, right? And you’re just like, yeah, Polly and I’ve met two amazing men, and you know, all of that. So I just love that openness to share about your own personal experience. And one thing that you will often see in this industry is people got lots to say and teach, but they clam up about their own life. Right. And their own life often doesn’t reflect what they’re actually teaching. Yeah, and so the ability to have both of those in congruence and share that openly, is also something that is really needed in this industry. And that I think you do well.

Susan Bratton 55:51
Thank you so much. Well, that wasn’t that fun. Three things I love about you.

Kevin Anthony 55:55
It’s a great game, Celine and I used to play that all the time. She called it the appreciation game, same thing, different names, right? Yeah. And it’s absolutely beautiful. One of the key tools that I teach couples to do, because yeah, it’s amazing how many people go through life, and you get caught up in your routines. And even if you’re thinking these things, you don’t voice them, right? And if you’re not voicing them, then your partner doesn’t know about it. They just don’t you know, and resentment builds up. And it’s just such a simple yet powerful tool.

Susan Bratton 56:29
Yeah, I actually, I actually came up with it on a mushroom journey.

Kevin Anthony 56:35
There’s that honesty, again.

Susan Bratton 56:38
It was funny because I had a bad trip. I do not know how many mushrooms I ate. But it was way too many. I had this terrible, terrible trip. And I don’t actually do a lot of entheogens. You know, I could count on probably, you know, two hands, how many times I’ve done anything like that. It’s not my norm, particularly, but you know, I’ve had the experience I like to have, I like to have all the experiences, I like to know what you know, and I like to do things more than three times I think anything that you’re going to do, you should do more than three times so that you begin to have some comfort with it. Because you didn’t just do not know what you’re doing the first few times you do it, obviously. So I had this really bad mushroom trip.

One thing I remembered that was like my major download from this particular experience was that I am constantly in my mind, what’s going through my mind all the time, our loving thoughts, like I just love people, I just have a lot of joy. And I would have been sitting here thinking about how hot you are and how I wished you had your ponytail down the entire interview had we not played the three things I love about her the moderate the adoration game. The journey was what told me that I needed to start saying things that I was thinking that I had all this love to give and I wasn’t giving it and that was just ridiculous. So I just started doing it. And I got better and better at it. And it just feels like I couldn’t not do it now. So that’s that going from conscious incompetence to unconscious competence, which I know you teach a lot of in your power and mastery course. Because that is something that men struggle with when you’re trying to teach men, it’s very difficult for men to start a new thing they’re really shitty at because men live in this pecking order that the Terry rail talks a lot about if you haven’t had him on your show, I can introduce you have you had Terry on, he’d be great for you for your men’s work.

A lot of what he talks about is the kind of victimhood mentality that men have and how it’s because they live in a pecking order. And if they make a mistake, they go down in the pecking order. And so they won’t often put themselves into positions where they’re doing a shitty job because a shitty job means they’re a loser. It Like It’s gets simplified to that. And what men want most is to be respected for a job well done, and they want to win, not lose. And so they have a hard time with it. And that’s really what leads to the performance anxiety that men suffer from too is that they just don’t, they’re so worried about fucking up, that they can’t just sit with the sensation of the fear that they have around that and just put, you know, stay present and stop worrying stop catastrophizing about what happened in the past or what’s going to happen in the future.

This is all work I learned from Jim Benson as a matter of fact, if you haven’t had him on your show, he’d be fantastic too. Yeah. Yeah, just remind me, he’s a men’s Tantra trainer. And, you know, I thought about one more thing, too, that I should have asked you before we did the show today that I’m actually a spokesperson for for companies. And I should have asked you if you wanted any of the things, the one Is Dr. Joel Kaplan company they make the Whopper vacuum correction device, the penis pump for reversing atrophy, correcting erectile dysfunction, bringing more blood flow into the penis all the way up through continued use doing male enhancement penis enlargement. And I don’t know if I ever gave you a pump. Did I ever give you one?

Kevin Anthony 1:00:19
No, no, please feel free.

Susan Bratton 1:00:22
Yeah, you should definitely be pumping. How old are you right now?

Kevin Anthony 1:00:26
I just turned 50.

Susan Bratton 1:00:28
There you go. You look great, fantastic. But 50 You know, you got to start being proactive on your erectile function. So you can keep your blood-carrying capacity very high. So you maintain your really firm erections. Because there are a lot of guys that are pushing a noodle wetter than they think it is. Because they’ve just kind of like slowly declined over time. And, you know, you’re in great health, obviously, your strength training, and you’re doing things like that. And so you understand progressive overload and having blood, you know, having the pump and all those kinds of things. Bodybuilders are some of my best fans because they want the carpet to match the drapes. Right? And so I’ll send you a pump. And then the second one is Gaines wave. That’s the have I think we might have talked about that on our last episode, but it was so long ago.

Kevin Anthony 1:01:21
Yeah. We didn’t talk about that. But I did have Dr. Brandeis on the show. Yeah, yes. Great. And when he sent me a copy of his book, which I read, which is a very thick book, but I read the entire thing. 21st century man. Yes. And which I thought was fantastic. And you have an entire chapter in there that you wrote.

Susan Bratton 1:01:39
About how to give women incredible pleasure. Yes. Yeah. Because what 21st-century man doesn’t want to do that? And so Gaines wave is a shock wave acoustic wave treatment to the penile and clitoral tissue. There’s Gaines wave for him and Gaines wave for her. And you’re down here in San Diego. So I have to think about what practitioner you could go to, but that having six treatments every couple of years, oh my god, what it does. And what I love about it is the gateway for her. What women are focused on is oh, I have you know, vaginal pain. I’ve got vaginal atrophy about loss of lubrication. Well, girl, if you have that you don’t work so well anymore either. This means you’re losing orgasmic intensity, you’re having laxity of the tissue, you’re not coming like you used to come, I’m coming better than I’ve ever come because I get those treatments. So that’s the second one.

The third one is Foria, which I will send some to you it’s this intimacy oil, it’s awakened arousal, oil, these inter-vaginal melts, they also have booty melts. I’ve been really in my anal pleasure discovery era lately. And you know, I wasn’t really called to have a lot of anal sex in the past but now I’ve been really enjoying it My God is it nice. And they have not just cocoa butter, vaginal melts, but they have booty melts, which are fantastic. And then they also have sex oil, which you can basically just like I always say, if you wouldn’t put it in your mouth, don’t put it in your, you know in your genitals. And this is just like MCT oil botanicals, cocoa butter, and CBD which I like because, it triggers the endocannabinoid system, which is essentially your pleasure healing pathway. And so like if you put the awakened arousal oil on your vulva, you your vulva, just just going like moving now I just like really gets things good. It’s like a pre-lubricant really helps with that it gets you going, it gets you really turned on. So this is new, and I’ll send this to you. So you can try these.

And then the last one I’m on now the chief advocacy officer of a company called bases, dx, they have an at-home STI collection kit. So if you keep if you just happen to you know, like, I don’t think you should ever have intercourse or oil or oral sex with someone that you haven’t, where you two haven’t gotten tested. There are too many STIs running around now and virulent versions of them. So hands kissing is Okay, hands-on genitals, hands-on body, but no genital-to-genital or mouth-to-genital contact without an STI test. That’s just my safe sex recommendation. And before you have to make an appointment with a lab, you have to wait to go in you have to have a blood draw, you have to wait for the results. Now you can have the kids sent out to your house and then if you’re like, Oh, I think we’re gonna want to have sex together. Let’s get tested right now and send them in and we’ll have results in 24 to 48 hours.

And so it’s like now We’re keeping COVID tests in our, you know, in our, in our houses so that we can check is this the flu or is this COVID, you know, and we can have at-home collection kits now. So I can get some of those sent over to you as well. So you have them on hand. So you’ll have your for your ready, you’ll have your testing kits ready. And, you know, I just really like being prepared for pleasure. So those are some of the things I’ve been doing since I saw you and happy to get you set up with everything.

Kevin Anthony 1:05:33
That would be wonderful. Always follow up with guests after the show with an email. So I’ll just put a little reminder in there. And yeah, anything you want to send over is great. You know, I’d had a doctor on the show recently speaking of the at-home STI testing kits, and he was talking about the fact that we are having the biggest syphilis outbreak in like 300 years or something like that some ridiculous amount of time. And that’s something that you hear we talked about in the pre-interview, and I was like, we have to discuss that because I even in this field, I wasn’t aware of that until he mentioned it right. So the idea of of getting to, of course, you come from the poly world also as as have I in the past.

Céline and I actually started out as a triad, which the audience already knows, but you know, in that world, testing is huge. The only way you can operate in that space, is if you are getting tested on a regular basis. So I’m a huge advocate of that for sure. Yeah, that also was a beautiful segue. Because, you know, at the end of every show, one of the things I asked the guests to tell people, you know, where they can find more about you and what they’re up to, you told us a little bit about some of the things you’re up to, but if there’s anything else you want to share where people can find your work.

Susan Bratton 1:06:52
Yeah, well, I would say Instagram, you can always follow me on Instagram. It’s my name at Susan Bratton SCSA En br a t t o n Susan Bratton. And if you want to be on my newsletter, and read all that sexy stuff I wrote about, go to better lover.com You even said to be a better lover today. That’s my tagline. Go to better lover.com And right at the top, you can sign up for my newsletter. I send one out two days a week on Wednesdays and Fridays. And it’s chock full of all kinds of sexy techniques, erotic playdates? Ah, sex life bucket list and what’s on your bucket list. We forgot to talk about it, Kevin.

Kevin Anthony 1:07:29
Wow. Yeah, I know because we just didn’t have time. But yeah, I know. I’ve got it right here. I printed it out. I went through your whole sex bucket list. But we just didn’t have time to talk about it today.

Susan Bratton 1:07:41
Can you tell me what’s on your bucket list? What were the top things on your bucket list?

Kevin Anthony 1:07:47
Let’s see. Gotta find because there’s there’s essentially here for for her and then for him. Oh, yeah, here we go. Okay. So when filling this out, you you you give things a ranking, right? So a b, or c but some of the A stuff obviously like orgasmic experiences you’d like on your bucket list. I got A’s on penis prostate, blended P spa, peritoneal breathing, full body orgasms, non-ejaculatory orgasms, expanded orgasms, edging, and that kind of stuff. I am not. And there’s nothing wrong with it. We’ve talked about on the show many times, and I’ve we’ve been happy. Two or three whole episodes on BDSM. I’m not personally a big BDSM fan, but I know a lot of people are. So you know, like some of the things. I did not check those or rank them highly.

Susan Bratton 1:08:42
Right. Same for me. Yeah. Yeah, I’m insane. So you’re really into orgasmic expansion right now you are ready to just like, feel a lot more pleasure in a lot more ways. That’s what I heard.

Kevin Anthony 1:08:54
Yeah. Well, so you know, for me, what’s the lovemaking experience, it’s like, if I have a partner who gets this and understands and knows how to have this kind of highly energetic sex, it’s like, we don’t need a lot of the paraphernalia on the outside. And it’s really about, you know, not so much how long we can go but like how deep we can go like how much energy we can create what kind of altered states of consciousness can we create through that? Which then yeah, if if either of us so choose, can result in really, really powerful, long, multiple orgasms where like, you can’t even get up and walk because you’re like, I’m so dizzy right now. I’m in an altered consciousness. My brain is functioning somewhere else. Right. So getting into states like that through sex is kind of my favorite thing to do.

Susan Bratton 1:09:49
Yeah, that’s fuck brain. Whoo. That’s you the last little while. Oh, wow. Yeah. Exactly. Gotcha. Yeah, that’s what I like to I like those extended periods of orgasmic co-creative bliss. I do definitely love all of that. That’s one of the treasures one of the jewels in the crown of my sex life as well. I definitely love that. And I think one of my programs expands her orgasms tonight which teaches the orgasmic meditation or clitoral stroking deliberate orgasm technique is has definitely been my path to like touching the source or feeling God or Gaia, or connection to all living things through orgasm. So that’s something that I’ve been doing for the last couple of decades with Tim, we’ve had an expanded orgasm practice. And it’s one of my favorite things, one of my favorite programs of ours that we’ve helped, you know, 10 20,000 couples learn the practice, in a very heart-connected way. And that’s a nice experience.

Kevin Anthony 1:11:00
It sure is.

Susan Bratton 1:11:04
So thank you for checking off your sex life bucket list for me. Yeah, if you’re interested in doing that, I’ll just finish off by saying that. If anything that I’ve said left you with questions during this episode, you can reply to any email that you get from me from better lover.com. When you get those two emails a week, if you have a question that doesn’t even have to be about what’s in the email, it goes right to my inbox. And I’m happy to share you know, if you’re like, What was the thing you’ve said, or any or I’ve got this problem you might be able to help me with, I’m happy to respond to those kinds of things. So I’m here. I’ve been here, I persist. I exist. And thank you so much for having me back. Can I come back again, on your 600? Episode or sooner?

Kevin Anthony 1:11:45
Absolutely. You’re always a pleasure to talk with and flirt with. Yeah. And you know, by the way, that’s a very generous offer the fact that people can email you and you will actually respond to them. Most people of your caliber, you’re not getting the actual person to respond. You’re getting to the assistant probably overseas somewhere to respond. So yeah, if you have a question, absolutely. Send it to Susan, and she will actually answer it. We are way over time now. However, having fun. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. There is a question I asked everybody that comes on the show. And one time one time I forgot to ask it. And somebody on social media actually said you didn’t ask the question, right? So even though we’re late, I gotta ask you anyway. And that is what is your best sexual talent?

Susan Bratton 1:12:39
Oh, fuck. Oh, God. I’m an incredible cowgirl? My dirty talk is legendary. How well I come and how noisy I am. That’s pretty nice. Um, maybe something still all I know what it is. I know what it is. I’m fun to fuck. That’s my pride and joy is that you never know what I’m going to think up. And it’s just fun to have sex with me because I’m always coming up with new things, or did I want to try this? What do you think to go do that? It’s like there’s a lot of variety in my lovemaking because I have a lot of natural curiosities. And I’m always learning and I’m always growing and I want new experiences. And so every single time I have sex, it usually has something different in it. So I’d say that’s it.

Kevin Anthony 1:13:34
Oh, I can see your emails blowing up right now. The questions coming in are going to be Can I have sex with you? Because you are fun to fuck. Which, by the way, if I don’t care how hot a woman is, if she’s not fun to fuck, like, right? Seriously, who wants to fuck somebody who’s not fun to fuck?

Susan Bratton 1:13:57
Yeah, we put too much emphasis on as women on how we look instead of how much fun we artifact. Yeah, I agree.

Kevin Anthony 1:14:05
And you know if even if a woman is not that good-looking, but she’s really fun to fuck, she will always have a full bed. Always.

Susan Bratton 1:14:12
She looks beautiful if she’s fun to fuck.

Kevin Anthony 1:14:16
That is absolutely true. All right, Susan, thank you again for coming on the show. You’re always so much fun to talk with.

Susan Bratton 1:14:25
Yeah, thank you. I had a great time. Love you.

Kevin Anthony 1:14:27
I love you too. All right, everybody. That’s all the time I have for this episode. And I will see you next week.

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