Are Modern Relationships Working And What Can We Learn From The Past With Emilia Nagy

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All right, welcome back to the Love Lab podcast. This is episode 254. And it is titled our modern relationships working and what can we learn from the past with Amelia Nagy. So Amelia and I spoke quite a while back. And she actually had me on her summit that she was doing. And we just connected on so many levels when we really got talking shop about, you know, masculinity and femininity and all that stuff that I really wanted to have her on the show. So we conspired to create this episode quite a while ago, but between her travels and my travels and life, we just had to keep pushing it off pushing it off pushing it up. So I am really excited to finally have this conversation. Because just from the talks that we’ve had, personally, either on your summit or just in our pre-interview calls, I know that there are so so many valuable pieces of gold that are going to show up in this conversation that people really need to hear. So we’re going to be talking about modern relationships today. Are they working? Are they not working? What could people do better? where are people going wrong? What can we learn from the past the way that we used to do relationships? Is there valuable stuff there that we could be bringing with us in today’s relationships? So it’s gonna be a fascinating conversation. I’m excited to really have that conversation.

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Emilia Nagy 3:52
Kevin, thank you so much for having me. It’s so much fun. I’m so excited to chat with you. And thank you so much for doing these amazing podcasts.

Kevin Anthony 4:01
You are welcome. I love doing these podcasts. And, you know, I tend to get good feedback. But every once in a while, you know, somebody really shows up and gives you that feedback that just that keeps you going keeps you doing it, you know, because it’s a lot of work. And that’s been happening a bit more lately. So that’s been really stoking my fire to keep doing this work. That’s all right. All right. So let’s just jump in here because we got to, we’re gonna lay some foundation here for what it is that we are talking about. So you know, as a relationship coach myself, I really see modern relationships struggling in so many ways. But I’m also curious about how other people including yourself, see modern relationships. And so my first question is, you know, we’re seeing both men and women struggle in relationships or even getting in into a relationship. What are some of the things that you see when you work with people that they’re struggling with? What are the big modern struggles that you see?

Emilia Nagy 5:10
Yeah, well, because I primarily work with feminine leaders. These are women who have a vision, they have a mission, they’re living on purpose, they’re creating something in their world, you know, something that we didn’t really necessarily have so much of if we go back like 50 years because we had a different society, then the biggest issue that I see is a mismatch and polarities, where it’s a feminine leader, and she has a strong mission. And he, she’s a very, she’s like on Earth, too. She doesn’t belong to the old world, she’s here to build the new world, and she knows it. And she’s a feminine being. But she has fire and she has strength there, she has power. And she and she’s going, right? And so she ends up putting off a lot of masculine energy because she’s creating so much. And with effeminate men, or doesn’t know how to pick a masculine man, there just becomes such a pattern there. Were these, these women are really struggling to find the right partner.

And one of the main reasons I think is the polarity, I see that a lot, the polarity, and the lack of understanding there of another one I see a lot is just, you know, because we have so much mismanagement, not managed, but there’s so much misinformation when it comes to what works in a relationship, what love really is, what spirituality really is, what connection really is, what feminine and masculine really is. Right? Like what the sacredness of it is, the design of it, if you will, the divine design, there’s so much confusion also about what that should look like. So then, you know, that gets brought into the relationships in terms of how people think they should fix things, or what they think they should act like. And so there’s a polarity mismatch, there’s some misinformation and confusion that I see a lot. And I’d say, those are probably some of the main things. The last piece, the last third thing I would say, is just a lot of blended families entrepreneurship missions, you know, we’re building new earth, right, the lightworkers are bringing in new earth. And so there’s confusion around how to bring all those pieces together in a harmonious way.

Kevin Anthony 7:51
That’s what I see. All right, well, things that you just threw out there. And you went right, right. From the start, you went for the big one, which is the polarity mismatch. Polarity is something that I and my wife Céline have talked about on this show a lot. We’ve done whole episodes on it. And there’s hardly a topic that comes up when speaking about relationships, that polarity doesn’t somehow come into the mix. Because it really is that important. So interesting, that you are working primarily with, you know, women who are, you know, as you’re calling them, kind of high-performing leaders, right? So they’re women who are probably in positions like CEO or, you know, some high-level position lawyers, stuff like that. One of the things that I’ve seen, and you can tell me if you see this is well, you said in your first answer, that they are feminine beings, but that they’re operating a lot of the time in their masculine.

So one of the things that I see is that it’s not. And this is where people get confused with polarity teachings, by the way, this is a big problem that people have with polarity teachings is when you start to talk about it, they will say, Well, what’s wrong with a woman being in her masculine? Right? We’ve all gotten that. Masculine and feminine energies. And it’s what’s wrong with that. And they, they tend to think that we’re saying that a woman can’t operate in that space, which is not at all what we’re saying when we’re talking about these polarities. So what I see and you can tell me what you think about this, it’s not so much that they’re operating from their masculine, it’s that they don’t know how to switch back and forth from masculine to feminine in the appropriate situation. So when she’s in the boardroom, and she’s being CEO, and she’s totally in her masculine, great, but then she goes home and she goes to go out on a date and she shows up as the masculine CEO on the date, and that’s a problem. Do you see a similar thing?

Emilia Nagy 9:55
Yes, yes. Yes. And there is there’s the issue of switching back and forth. And then that kind of draws in with it. I think the second piece, which is the miscommunication and misunderstanding about what that means, you know like I have women tell me, well, he should take charge, but you know, like they’re listening to polarity teachings are and they’re listening to, you know, well, the feminists should submit, well, I’m just like, I’m waiting for him to take charge. I’m submitting, I thought, I’m doing what I’m supposed to do. And it’s like, Yes. and healthy, masculine men don’t control. You know, there’s a whole diff, that’s such a big difference between, we’re partnering, we’re co-creating. And we’re, we’re moving together, and healthy masculine men are responding to the feminine because they lead the guys always lead with us in mind, you don’t want to lead us where we don’t want to go, you don’t want to lead us into, you know, without information from us, right?

And so, you know, there’s, that’s what so in addition, yes to the energy, then the complicated the next complication comes in there with like, well, I thought it meant this. And I thought it meant that and I thought I was doing what I was supposed to do. And it’s like, yes, and no, it’s not about you, you either submitting or leading, it’s about the dance, the dance of move of moving back and forth, and the energy flow, the energy flowing from the masculine to the feminine being received and being reciprocated. And back again, right, like, these ancient teachings that I think indigenous societies know about, I think these things were just part of the culture and who we were as human beings, you know, I know Native American ceremonies, separate the men and women and a lot of the ceremonies I took part of, because of the spiritual essence says, right, and so yeah, there’s, there’s, there’s, there’s definitely that piece of not knowing when to switch and not knowing how to keep the energy flowing. And then like the misinformation on top of that coming in and making a big mess out of this situation on top.

Kevin Anthony 12:09
Yeah, big mess. Indeed. You know, one thing I want to point out about what you were sharing is, yeah, I agree that some of these women do say that, well, I’m waiting for him to step up. But given the current climate, a lot of men are outright afraid to step up for fear of being accused of being toxic masculinity, right? And, when you have a woman who is really strong and is in her masculine, and she’s not creating the space to allow him to step in there. So now you’ve got there’s no space for him to step up and fill that with the fear of, well, if I forced my way into that space that isn’t there, somehow, now I’m going to be considered toxic masculine.

Emilia Nagy 12:58
Exactly. When there’s no invitation from the feminine when she doesn’t know how to do that, when she occupies the full space, and there’s no empty space, and no receptivity from her. Right. Yeah, you know, that’s, again, men are not going to, you know, healthy men are not going to force us. So if we’re not open, and we’re not available, and we’re not creating an invitation and an opening. I mean, healthy men, I think they usually just exit that situation, because they just feel like, you know, there’s no room for me here. There’s no space for me energetically, there’s no space for a masculine man here.

Kevin Anthony 13:38
Yes, yes. And that, I really hope people heard that that little segment that we both just contributed to because I think it’s one it’s really important. And two, I think it’s really misunderstood. It’s really like you said, there’s so much miscommunication that’s happening in that area with one not realizing that she’s not creating space and another not wanting to, to, you know, force it, and then neither of them communicating about it, and then nothing happens.

Emilia Nagy 14:07
Exactly, exactly. And so that’s why I think for, for, for, for women, you know, it’s really important to understand that, yeah, there is a blind spot. There is a blind spot because of our culture, because of our upbringing. And it’s, in some ways, it’s not even really their fault because they live in this culture. You know, this is the environment. This is the outward sort of narration that’s happening right? And a lot of women blame themselves you know, that things don’t work out they think something’s wrong with them and then they start going into the other sort of mass media, you know, propaganda spiral which is, you’re not good enough. You’re not worthy. Go buy this, go buy this, go buy this go. That’s right. But all these are these messages that work to keep us out of our power to keep us out of creative, sovereign identity, so that we feel out of control of our lives and unable to create what we desire, what we want, how we want to experience life, like, so we definitely have to, I think, take that into consideration because it happens to the best of us.

Kevin Anthony 15:22
Okay, you know, I think I made a mistake with this episode. And I’ll tell you how. So when I do episodes on my own, I have sound effects. But I don’t generally set up my sound effects board when I do interviews, because generally, I want to keep more space for my guests to speak and not not interrupt with silly sound effects that I find entertaining and other people maybe don’t. However, you just dropped I have a sound effect that is the truth bomb, anytime somebody says something that is like, just big truth, especially one that isn’t talked about, I drop a truth bomb, and I don’t have my truth bomb handy today. But you just you, you said the under the silent part out loud about the agenda to take away your sovereignty and your creativity and, and all of that. And that really is a huge part of what’s happening. And that leads me to the next question that I wanted to ask you. Which is there are a lot of narratives out there that the mainstream is giving us about how women are supposed to be in relationships, how men are supposed to be in relationships, and what relationships are supposed to look like. And I’m wondering if maybe you could just throw out a couple of those narratives that you see that are out there and that are pervasive in the mainstream, that are negatively affecting people’s ability to have great relationships?

Emilia Nagy 16:56
No, I mean, I think for I speak primarily, I know, there’s a lot of messages for men. You know, but I mean, the most obvious ones are like, you know, women are gold diggers, right? All men want sex. And I mean, that’s just propagated over and over, you know, over and over and over, over and over. It’s so simple, and like, so ludicrous. But, you know, there is an element where I still see powerful, intelligent, badass women buy into some form of that somehow, the masculine wants that out, like, for example, a younger woman, like I hear this from women that are like caught, you know, cautious, that is like, well, that’s, you know, my friend just got dumped her man just dumped her for a younger version. So this is obviously something men whine, it’s like, yes, some men, you know, consider that you know, were acceptable for whatever reason, but I wouldn’t necessarily say those are the healthy men. And if they do, it’s not for the reason that they think it usually doesn’t have to do with the looks, it has to do with the vitality and the energy and the femininity.

Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, there’s just this bastardization of, of who we are as beings and, and, and so I mean, those are very, very, it’s very interesting to me how empowered women who are otherwise empowered like financially educationally. Right. They have an experience of empowerment in their lives in all other areas, but they’re lacking it when it comes to their partnership with the masculine. Because they’re not defining their own role and using their own creative power to create that union. They’re relying on outside messages and buying into the mainstream. And so because they’re not standing in their creative power in their realm of relationships with men, they’re, they’re not creating, they’re just assimilating what’s or appropriately, right, what’s being given to them. And it really is, I find it amazing that women have stood up in so many areas, in terms of empowering themselves and creating their lives. But in this area, there’s still a lot of help needed.

Kevin Anthony 19:38
Yeah, well, the narratives are, are strong. And so I want to address that point you just made about the men leaving women for younger versions. And you’re right, the assumption is always because she’s younger and maybe potentially better looking. I can honestly tell you from a man’s point of view, while yes, we are all a tree activates to youth and vitality. That is not the main reason. The main reason, the main reason from a man’s point of view is most likely, because the younger woman is more likely to be in her feminine and sense that she allows him to take the lead. Because there’s an age difference. There’s an automatic power differential there, there’s an automatic polarity there, because of the age difference. And the younger woman is a lot less likely to complain, to compete, to challenge to do all those things that really negatively affect the relationship. So if the older women simply were able to be in that same space, as the younger women, they probably see the men would, would not leave as much. And I can honestly tell you, I see beautiful young women all the time. And I’m like, wow, that woman is just gorgeous, like the perfect body. And you know, as a man, your mind goes, Wow, what would it be like to have sex with her? But here’s, here’s the very next thought that comes in almost every time. I would never date her. Because she’s not mature enough. Right?

Emilia Nagy 21:17
You’re so young. You’re talking about your old?

Kevin Anthony 21:27
I just turned 49.

Emilia Nagy 21:30
No, wow. Oh, no way.

Kevin Anthony 21:36
In my 40s, I had a rule, I’m still in my 40s. But in my earlier 40s, I had a rule that I wouldn’t date anybody under 30. Because I felt like none of the women that were younger than that had the level of maturity that I needed to be in a relationship. And so yeah, there is an attraction to the youth in the beauty for sure. But that’s not what makes a relationship Great. What makes a relationship great is the maturity, the connection, the communication, and all that other stuff. And that, to me is what’s most important. And that’s why I say, you know, yeah, there are some men that probably only care about the arm candy, okay, great. But they’re not the good men anyway, as you rightly pointed out, right? And the good men, it’s not just that they want a younger model.

They want the polarity, they want the connection, that communication and, you know, a harmonious loving relationship. So that’s my take on it. And I think you tend to agree with that. Yeah. I wanted to also just quickly address some of the narratives that I see that are really negatively affecting relationships, in addition to the ones that you’ve already pointed out. And I see a lot of narratives around there’s no difference between men and women. There’s no difference between the sexes. That’s one of the narratives right there. So when you’re talking about polarity, how can you have polarity in a relationship, if you think there’s no difference between men and women, anybody whose eyes are open can clearly see there are really big differences. And that’s great. The differences are what make us come together as a couple that’s the spice of life, that is the polarity, so embrace the differences. So that’s one big narrative that I see that’s really harming people.

The other big narrative, and we’ve touched on it before, is toxic masculinity. So this big narrative is out there telling all these women that and telling the men to by the way, that if you show masculine traits, then you’re toxic, right? And here’s the problem with that, that I see is, and you’re saying the same thing here. And actually, you can speak to this a little bit after my little rant here. But these women are craving a masculine man, a man who’s going to step up and be in that masculine role. Yet the narrative is telling them that anytime they see masculine behavior, that somehow that’s toxic, and they should run away from it on the man’s side, right? They’re fake. They’re trying to figure out why their relationships aren’t working and why they’re constantly fighting and breaking up with you know, all the women that they date because they’re not stepping up into their masculine, but then they’re also being told that if they do those masculine things, that that’s not what women want, because it’s toxic.

Emilia Nagy 24:39
Yeah, so hard. Like, you can’t win, you know, I think it’s, there’s that there’s a poem I read recently that I love it talks about how like, a lover, you know, I was told I did this I spoke up I was too loud. I stopped speaking why was I so quiet, you know, it’s like, it’s like you you can’t win I can’t win. And again, why it’s so important to be in touch with our own sovereign creative power, our connection to the divine, our connection to our soul, whatever does that, meditation, martial arts, tai chi, creative activities, playing music, right? Like whatever that prayer, whatever it does for you, but just getting in touch with our inner, inner self and our voice, because I think if we follow those messages, those outward messages, not only are we not going to have a fulfilling life, because it’s going to be based on somebody else’s idea of success, it’s also going to lead to some of these things that you’re talking about because we’re gonna bind to these narratives and then end up manifesting.

Unfortunately, those realities, you know, and so I don’t know what, like, I don’t work with men, so I wouldn’t know what to tell men. But women, I definitely talk about biochemically, let’s just start there, you know, and with all the narratives that are happening now about transgender and switching genders, it’s so it’s such an oxymoron to me, because it’s like, you can switch genders, but you have to take all these hormones. So isn’t that like, already an oxymoron? That No, you can’t switch genders? Because here’s all this, you know, things that you need to take in order to be able to be this other gender, right? Like, I mean, it’s, it’s absolutely appalling, to me those things, you know that because, to me, they are. They’re, they’re against the divine design. And there’s reasons for that, you know, we know we, we probably won’t get into that here, because we’re not talking about that topic.

But in my opinion, it’s like, you know, those are the additional ways that Lightworkers and feminine leaders need to be warriors like, and not, not in the sense of being in your masculine, but we do need to stand in our own reality and in our own understanding of, of who and what we are. And if we don’t have an understanding of that, then seek it then as to be shown our cosmic place as to be shown our nature by design, you know, these are just things that I think maybe they’re countered, counterintuitive for people. But I think until we do them, and we do them consistently, we’re gonna be running into these things because we’re gonna be buying into them and living according to them simply because they’re messages that someone puts out and puts out repeatedly until we start listening to her own inner voice, you know?

Kevin Anthony 27:56
Yeah, I completely agree. And, I mean, yeah, it’s, there’s a whole bunch of things that we could talk about, that aren’t really necessarily relevant to this discussion. And that would take us like a whole nother hour of the show to do but you’re right. And I’m somewhat struggling with how to approach this subject without going down the rabbit hole. But they’re right, like the one example. So as we’re recording this, just this past weekend, Mickey Willis released his third version in the plandemic series called The Great Awakening. And I don’t know if you have seen it, yet it literally just came out. But one of the things he talks about in there is how the Chinese Communist Party in the past was taking gender out and making all the men and women dress exactly the same and shave their heads, taking all the things that defined a man or woman out and he talks about the reason why they did that, and what the point of that was, the reason he talks about it in that movie is that he’s showing you why they’re pushing that so hard today, I don’t want to go down that that rabbit hole, I stay away in this particular show, from most geopolitical things, but understand that there is a reason behind it. It’s not just happening organically.

The second point I want to make and I think you’ll probably agree with this also, is there are people in this world that believe that man is more powerful than God, whatever version of God you think exists, you know, whatever your version is, you know, some people it’s just spirit, its universe, other people, it’s Jesus, other people. It’s, you know, whatever version you think exists out there. There are a lot of people who believe that we can do better as humans. I think it’s insane. Where have we ever as humans demonstrated that we can do better? I’ve never seen that. But this idea that nature, what happens in nature, we can somehow re-engineer it to be better than it was engineered. And every time I’ve ever seen that done throughout, you know, history, it’s been a disaster for humans. And so we see that here, with men and women in relationships, we’re rewriting the natural order of masculine and feminine relationships, and what we’re witnessing in our society is yet again, another disaster.

Emilia Nagy 30:37
Yeah, and it’s, it’s so painful, you know, it’s so painful. And it’s such a stripping of, of our divinity, you know, as this how I see it, and to me, it’s, it’s very obvious, the agenda, and it’s very obvious to me, now that I’m, you know, in at this point in my life, where I’m where I am in a sacred union. And I’m in the incredible kingdom of that, right, like the power of that the synergy that happens in the empowerment that happens and the sovereignty and like these, like, you know, we have like a castle wall now against the establishment, if you will, like they can’t break through with their messages because we have each other, you know, and I think, sovereign unions, those sacred unions there are under attack. And that’s why polarity is under attack. That’s why the feminine and the masculine are under attack.

Because when that energy combined, because of their compliments, when those compliments combine, and the energy is flowing between the two partners, the way that it was designed to flow, there’s a synergy. It’s not just a symbiosis, it’s not one plus one plus two, it’s now one plus one is almost infinite because it’s abundantly divine, it’s creative, it’s infinitely creative, and the possibilities are endless. And, we don’t live in that world yet, like we’re still, you know, transitioning from 3d into 5g. So this is, I believe, some of the steps that humanity is taking now so that we can come into the new earth so that we can create that new work, because and then you are, we are going to have sacred unions. I think that’s the foundation for society. Like, imagine if that was the foundation for a society, those synergistic unions. And then that’s what the children are being raised in. That’s the foundation of how companies are run and, and the world is going right. Like, I think that’s where they’re going, we’re going as humanity. And I think that’s why you and I are here, you know, there’s a lot of us holding those codes and those visions. But I mean, it is, it is definitely seriously under attack because it is such an empowering place to be. And it’s yeah, it’s not it’s not by accident.

Kevin Anthony 33:08
No, it is not by accident, they understand that their system will be gone, if we’re able, to really bring about these synergistic relationships. And that’s, that’s really one of the key foundations to bringing in that that new world, which I completely agree with an NSA to that, okay, we’re not there as a world yet. But it doesn’t mean that we can’t experience that for ourselves. I mean, I was in when Céline was alive, I was in that kind of relationship. And I know what it’s like, and I know that it’s possible. So if you’re listening to this, and you’re like, okay, all right, great. So maybe in the next lifetime, I can know you can experience that now. You just have to know how to create it, it is absolutely possible to do that. And in fact, when we would coach couples together, my wife and I, our program was actually called relationship synergy. Because that’s exactly what we were trying to teach them was how to have that kind of synergy in their relationship that we experienced ourselves.

Yeah. Okay, I got to take a quick break for the second sponsor, and then I’m going to bunch more questions I want to ask you about this. Okay. Are you a couple are your relationship and sex life where you want them to be? Are there changes you would like to make but just don’t know how? Maybe you think there is nothing that can be done, I challenge you to make 2023 the year that changes if you’re not 100% happy with where your relationship or sex life is, then get help today and change your life. Go to KevinandCéline.com/sex-coaching-couples, and schedule a strategy call with me today so we can map out a strategy to get you where you want to be. Again, that is KevinandCéline.com/sex-coaching-couples I know it’s a long URL, but the link is in the description. Don’t worry about it, you don’t even have to remember it. Okay. So let’s get back to this conversation because I think it’s so powerful and so important. And I want to talk, when we had our previous pre-interview call for this, one of the things that came up was the fact that we were losing the foundation of what makes a partnership, a partnership. And so I’m curious, from your point of view, what is the foundation that makes a partnership apart? And because we’re talking about sacred partnerships, and all this stuff like that? What does that mean? What’s the foundation that that one of those is built on?

Emilia Nagy 35:48
I don’t know what I said then, but I’ll say what I think now. The foundation, as I’ve said is energy flow, energy is flowing between the couple and both parties are consistently nourished by the way, that the energy is flowing. And I’ll give a little bit more specifics. But that to me, is the foundation. And what I see with my clients is that once I teach them that, and I have them practice, while they’re dating, one state, when they meet their guide, they know what it is, they know how to how to create it. And they know when they fell out of it, how to get back to it, how they get back to that nourishing energy flow, in my opinion, and experience, if a woman the feminine energy partner understands this and has the consciousness of it, and as the Buddha is able to create it, and if she steps out, bring it back in, then that’s actually incredibly enough.

It’s enough, because healthy masculine men respond to women, and that healthy masculine energy responds to the feminine, as we talked about at the beginning, that masculine is never gonna force the feminine. If he’s healthy, he’s not going to control her. He’s not going to force her. But he does want to lead but he wants to lead with her front and center her needs her feelings, her comfort, her desire, and her feedback. And so if she’s in a place where she’s sensitive to that energy flow, and she’s able to bring it back, then the relationship has a solid in my opinion and experience, life-long Foundation. Because think about it, if the energy is flowing, this is a lot of times what I hear from women, oh, we just don’t have any attraction, or we don’t have communication, we don’t have a connection. All those things signify that the energy isn’t flowing, right? When the energy is flowing, then why would you ever not want that that’s nourishing him that’s nourishing her? So why would you want a divorce? Why would you leave that nursing? situation? Right? Like, it’s very highly unlikely. I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s almost like impossible because it’s working.

People don’t like it leave what’s working. I know, sometimes people get triggered by certain unhealthy patterns and things happen. That’s another issue. But so yeah, in my opinion, is that energy and the energy flow has to start with the masculine because they want to generate that’s what’s nourishing to them is to be allowed to generate. They need needs to be received by the feminine, appreciated, and reciprocated. And then he needs to be allowed to generate again. And if that energy flows, I mean, it’s so simple. It’s so simple, but we have forgotten these things, we don’t live them, we have messages that mess it all up, right? So when that energy is flowing in that way, it’s creating that synergy. And there’s very little that can get in between healthy energy flow, and the partnership.

Kevin Anthony 39:07
Nice, beautiful, so many little gems in there, I suggest you probably rewind a little bit and listen to that again. So yeah, I mean, I agree, this idea of energy flow between the two. And throughout history, there have been a lot of representations of that natural flow of energy, one of which, of course, being the classic Yin Yang symbol, right, is just the perfect example of energy flow between the two. And there’s many more from every, culture that has existed has had some representation of that energy flow that you’re talking about. Yes. And so, you know, at the beginning of this, you know, the title of it was our modern relationships working and what can we learn from the past right?

Because I think today too many people, they, they just want to say that everything in the past was old and just didn’t work. And we know better now, and you know, we can forget all that stuff. And I just think it’s really important to mention that there are some really valuable things from the past and from nature that we can take into our modern relationships. And if we really embrace that, we will see our relationships improve a lot. And the understanding that there is this energy flow between the two is one of them. So let me ask you this question. Let’s say a woman realizes that that energy flow is not happening in the relationship, what can she do about it?

Emilia Nagy 40:40
She can ask for help, which would mean getting into her receptive energy, I think almost every time that a woman isn’t participating in the flow is because she’s close to being vulnerable. And that could be because of a current hurt that happened with the partner that hasn’t been addressed. I could, it could be in it often has to do with past relationships and past traumas and past wounds, that she maybe didn’t heal yet, because she didn’t have the right tools or the right knowledge or the right understanding. And so the first thing would be for her to get vulnerable to herself, and then to her partner and ask for help. And a lot of times, if she’s judging him, if she’s blaming him, if she is in a place where she’s feeling like, you know, resistance to his, to him and his energy, that’s a problem, because then the energy can’t flow, right, like she won’t receive his energy.

And if, she doesn’t receive his energy, he’ll feel rejected, which is very difficult, very difficult when you’re a masculine being, to be giving and to and to feel rejected. It’s very difficult, right? And so what I tell women is just get back into what you need. And just, for God’s sake, have the courage to really ask and give your masculine man that quality, priceless information about what you need, because believe me, he wants to provide it, he wants to provide what most matters, he wants to be your hero, he wants to give you the water that you’re craving. So let him so get back into your feminine and get back into your vulnerable and ask for help. And that’s really hard. That’s really hard for women, because receiving is vulnerable, you know. And so then we have to look at, okay, what is in the way, what needs to be healed, so you can open your heart again. But yeah, if she can do that, then almost always, the energy flows were stored, because now she’s able to receive again, and her heart is open again. She’s asking for what she needs, the masculine is elated to know what it is and to be able to provide it. And there you go, it’s flowing again.

Kevin Anthony 43:20
Yeah, I completely agree. And you used a word in there that my wife Céline used to use all the time. And so they used to say she was a big champion for men. And she used to say all the time, men want to be our heroes. And she was absolutely right. We do want to be your hero. We don’t. We don’t just want to be seen as your hero, right? Like, to say that we want to be seen as your hero might mean that we’re not necessarily willing to do the work. We just want to be seen as the hero. But the reality is, we don’t just want to be seen as you’re here. We want to actually be your hero. Yeah. Why? Why was Superman so popular in the culture of decade after decade after decade?

Because he was the symbol of a masculine, caring man who did the right thing and showed up and save the damsel in distress. He was that that was the role model right there. And we as guys all want to be that how many people do you see today? You see it on famous sports players all the time. They have the Superman logo tattooed on their arm. They want to be Superman, Superman, they want to be your hero. But you as the feminine have to make space for that if you don’t allow us to be your hero, then we can’t be it.

Emilia Nagy 44:45
And it’s crazy because you know, a lot of times women hold back their whole back because of the feminine. The culture teaches us to be more taking care of others’ needs than really being in touch with ourselves and knowing our own needs. And so women hold back that they think it’s too much like it’s too much to ask, it’s too much to say, a lot of times if they haven’t done the inner work, they don’t even know what they need at that moment to be able to articulate it and communicate it and even ask for you know, and what’s amazing to me, I just, I, I didn’t know this, you know, I only learned this because I was such a disaster when I was dating. That’s the only reason why I became a master is because I was such a disaster. And so I have the, you know, my parents and I was actually born in communism. So we grew up in communism.

So I grew up with that kind of no feminine and masculine. But the polarities, were there because my mom was a feminine being and my dad was a masculine being, but it wasn’t goat working, the energy wasn’t working, you know. And so I sort of was like, feeling like I’m in a war zone because it wasn’t working. It was so aggressive and difficult. And so that’s what I started creating. So then I started looking at, okay, what is this? Like? How do I break this down and create something different? And I remember when I actually saw, like, saw, you know, like, put on a different type of lens, because I studied with Allison Armstrong for years, and actually saw like, men want to be our hero. But like you said, they don’t just want the title. I mean, unhealthy men will take the title without what goes with it, the actual honor, right? But a healthy man, he wants to provide like he sincerely wants to provide what most matters. And I give the example of my husband getting this old blue trailer because it’s the sexiest thing a man’s ever done for me because this old blue horse trailer, because he brought that trailer, do psychologically get your horse.

That was my dream to have a horse, you know. And this old blue brick kiddie horse trailer is like the sexiest gift any man’s ever given me and I still pass it on the way to the barn. I wrote a post about this. And so that mattered the most to me. And he saw that he saw that and he wanted to bring it to me and nourish me with this huge gift of what mattered most you know, so, yeah, the healthy masculine wants that. And imagine if he never knew that I wanted a horse, then how would he provide what most mattered to me? He would never have known to go get that blue trailer. That was the sexiest, most amazing gift any man has ever given me. Right? Thank God I shared, right? So there’s a lot, there’s a lot of work. And I honestly work for women to do I think and I honestly say like, a lot of women come and they say, Well, do you work with couples? What can I bring my partner? It’s like, so often the woman just does her peace, like their relationship, but just because healthy masculine men respond to the covenant. I mean, men have their wounds too, right? They need help, too. It’s not they’re not perfect, but I’m saying as a whole, I feel like if the feminine can initiate that energy risk by being receptive, and in the feminine flow again and appreciating her partner. I mean, that goes a long way to restoring harmony.

Kevin Anthony 48:33
It sure does. And you know, I do work with couples, but I’m going to throw something out there. Right. I also started out primarily working with men. And I got into working with couples with my wife, and I’m continuing to work with couples because I do enjoy working with couples. But my idea that I just had at this moment was women, like if you’re working with Amelia, and you’re like, Oh, I really like how can my husband work with you? And Amelia, you’re like, I don’t really do couples. I’m working with you. Let’s focus on you. Send your men to me. Right? Because you can hear that Amelia and I are on the same page with this sand to me. I work with your man. Amelia will work with you. And together we will bring that synergy back. That’s Yes. It’s a great way to do it. Okay, yeah, I got two last questions for you as we’re getting very close to the end of the show.

I knew I knew this show was gonna fly by quickly. So the question I had from you for you, is really what benefits can people expect to see in their lives and relationships if they can bring things back into balance, but  I’m gonna tweak that just a little bit here. Because you mentioned just a moment ago that you were a disaster. And that’s what led you to figure out how to become a master. So rather than just generically answering the question about what are the benefits people can see? If you could maybe talk from your own personal experiences? What benefits did you see in your own life and relationships as a result of making this shift?

Emilia Nagy 50:09
Oh, wow. I mean, it’s, it went from me dealing very unhealthy men, and almost marrying somebody who was not, you know, he was not a healthy man, like, I would not have had a good life with him. But I just was modeling what I knew, like I just was picking what I was shown as, as a relationship. So I picked the partner that I was modeled in my family of origin, you know like many of us do. But yeah, when I started, were doing the work. I, you know, I was dating and so I was taking, like, all the understanding about the masculine and learning about men understanding men, a lot of the work started for me with Allison Armstrong, Pat Allen, and started bringing it out into my dating. And little by little, I started to notice like, oh, wait, so men are not jerks. You know? Like, they’re not jerks. Actually.

They’re, they’re kind of cool. And then it was like, and then I was like, Oh, wait, wait, men are not selfish. Wait, they’re, why they want, they want to take care of me. And then it was like, We, they’re not, they do not have to have sex all the time. They actually want a connection, like, and I started to experience these relationships with the men that I was dating and they got better, and they got better, and they got better. And I just my own healing around some of the wounds the thing that had happened because of my misunderstandings about men, and my inability to pick healthy men. I was picking unhealthy people, unhealthy, masculine people, right? And then I, you know, started dating these amazing men. You know, I started dating before I met my hubby. I had some really great dates. I remember one day where I met him. He was like, just a few weeks before I met my hubby. And we had such a great connection. But he was moving. He was moving to Seattle. But we had such a nice time, just a few weeks that we did date.

And I was like, Yeah, this is going well like this starting to go really well. And then pretty soon after I met my hubby, and I remember he in the beginning, you know, I didn’t I don’t I didn’t have sparks flying. You know, I don’t teach that. You know, there was just the peace, a peace and a common sense of Yeah, just a sense of peace with him, you know? And as I got to know him, and I was able to bring in. He’s for me. He’s, if he’s is he a healthy man? Yeah, he is. If he’s nice for me, I can actually trust that he’s for me. I can share what I need. I can ask for the things that mean the most to me that are scary. They say out loud, you know. And then on his side, he led with such authenticity, that it just made it so easy.

No, he made it so easy. And so yeah, I went from just having these very difficult, very painful experiences with men to meeting and marrying my hubby. And that was 13 years ago. And we have one daughter now she’s nine. And we almost he almost never have fights. Like once in a while. Usually, it’s me that yells like, I’ll just get upset about something. And he’s like, he just counted. He’s like, What do you need? Are you okay? Are you okay? What happened? You know, like, he knows that you know, if I’m yelling, there’s an issue that he can fix, you know, which is awesome, which is awesome. So yeah, but definitely what without? If I hadn’t done that work of there’s no, I would have no way I would have this marriage.

Kevin Anthony 54:16
Well, there’s no better testimonial to doing the work and to the concepts and ideas that we’ve talked about on this show than that personal experience right there. And I can tell you, I had a similar experience on my end. I’m not going to go into my whole story with it. But the idea of when I realized what I needed to do as a man and stepped into that, how I saw my relationships shift dramatically as well. So and you mentioned a couple of times throughout the show, Allison Armstrong’s work, and my wife was a huge fan of Alison Armstrong as well. We actually had Allison on the show we were super excited to have her on the show because we love her work awesome using it out. So yeah, I mean this stuff is it’s real. And it works. Speaking of which, if somebody listening to this is like, Okay, I’m in how do I do this? Where can they find more from you, Amelia?

Emilia Nagy 55:17
Well, if you’re a man go to Kevin, because I don’t. I’m not an expert in working with men. But if you’re a woman, you can find me at Amelia Nagy and at Amelianagy.com. And I have a blog I have a Contact Me form. Also on my Facebook profile, if you search Amelia naggy, I’m an avid writer, so almost every day post something about these kinds of topics that women love to read. And so those are the ways you can find me.

Kevin Anthony 55:52
Alright, the link will be in the description. So check that out. Okay, last question. It’s a question that we ask everybody that is on the show. And that is what is your best sexual talent?

Emilia Nagy 56:13
I think it’s being wild. But when I say wild, I don’t mean positions. I don’t mean toys, I don’t mean appendages. I mean, organic, raw, real natural, the way that I was made as a woman and all that’s all I need, you know, and I think I have I have that gift and that blessing to be able to do that. And so you know, with that there, we can enjoy that sacred sexuality that we can create as human beings. And it’s been awesome in my marriage because with my hubby grew up in a really religious upbringing. So he had what I see a lot of people carry, like, a lot of guilt and a lot of like, shame and, and heaviness around sexuality. And so I just remember praying like, God, I just give me what I need to be the right way for him. You know, and not just sexually but in every way but sexually took I was like, No, you are because, you know, I because I didn’t have that upbringing. I just like embraced the organic nature, of how God made me as a sexual being, you know, and so I think that’s a gift I find.

Kevin Anthony 57:46
That’s a beautiful gift that if I would sort of rephrase that, in my own words, would be like harnessing and embracing the power of female sexual energy, like really embracing it.

Emilia Nagy 58:01
Yeah, yeah. Just what, what’s naturally there what, you know, what we’re created to be divine beings, and it’s, it doesn’t have anything to do. Experiencing that spiritual connection through sex has nothing to do with like, what modern things teach us like it’s not about positions or how you do the blow job. It has nothing to do with that at all. You know, it’s really all about Will you be?

Kevin Anthony 58:31
Yes. Who you be indeed. Yeah. Well, Emily, I want to thank you for coming on the show. having this conversation with me. It flew by super fast. We are already at an hour long. We could keep going. But I think I think we did a pretty good job of getting the essence of what we wanted to communicate here with this out to the audience.

Emilia Nagy 58:52
Yeah, and thank you, you did amazing with pulling, pulling gems, and letting me come forward with gems with your questions. So thank you for that.

Kevin Anthony 59:03
You’re welcome. Well, thank you one more time for being on the show. And everybody that’s all the time we have for this episode. And I will see you next week.

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Kevin Anthony 59:39
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Céline Remy 59:40
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