How Long Should Sex Last?

Céline Remy 0:11
Welcome to the Love Lab Podcast a safe place to get real about sex. Whether you are a man, woman, single or couple, this is the show for you because well, sex matters. We are your hosts, Kevin Anthony, and Céline Remy.

Kevin Anthony 0:27
Alright, welcome back to the love lab podcast. This is episode 49, and it is titled “How long should sex last?”

Céline Remy 0:35
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Kevin Anthony 1:10
Okay, so here we are week 49. And I’m still excited about talking about sex. I am fired up about this episode because I feel that we really need to do a re-education of the population and how they feel about sex and what they believe about sex. And I’m going to give you a couple of examples of what I mean by that. So in prepping for this episode, you know, obviously we have our library of sex books from all the experts in the world.

And you know, we’ve studied all this stuff, but we also look to see what are people currently saying what kind of articles have been written recently about stuff. And we came across a couple that really kind of set the tone for what most people think, feel about sex.

Kevin Anthony 2:00
So the first one is from GQ. And I read a little quote from it. It says, and I’m just taking two different parts and compiling them together. But one of them is they’re asking how long should sex last, and it says sex should last one hour, 34 minutes and 22 seconds the exact runtime of Wayne’s World. And then in the next sentence, they say, Yeah, right. Well, I have a lot of respect and follow up questions for anyone who’s regularly managing to bone for the duration of a feature film. Of course, I’m joking. Haha, but they shouldn’t be joking. Alright, so I’m going to read to you two more.

Kevin Anthony 2:42
So this one comes from thecut.com. And it said in 2012, Kanye West successfully halted the distribution of a sex tape reportedly depicting him in flow ground with a Kim Kardashian look alike. Instead, TMZ described the two versions. Its editors had seen saying both tapes are impressively long. The first is roughly 20 minutes, and the second is more than 40. And we’re talking constant action. Seriously, the guy takes no breaks. It’s incredible. Almost Sting-like, I sent the link to friends, the male friend replied, and all the female replied with skepticism. Even if that were possible, it’d be at least 20 minutes too much sex.

Kevin Anthony 3:27
The last one is from a sex therapist, Barry McCarthy. And he is quoted as saying very few people have intercourse per se, that goes longer than 12 minutes. Now, why do I read all of that stuff to you? Because I was shocked when researching this episode, that this seems to be this common belief that sex more than about 10 minutes long is too fucking long. Are you killed? So let me tell you, who I don’t remember who wrote the GQ article. But ask me questions. Because I’m the guy that can bone for an entire feature film, no problem, and have done longer than that.

Céline Remy 4:08
I’m the girl who’s okay with it. And like, this is awesome.

Kevin Anthony 4:13
So, you know, I don’t want this to come off about like bragging about, you know, how long we can have sex. That’s not what it’s about. Right? But it’s about redefining your expectations of what sex can be. Mm-hmm. So let’s just for one second, define what we mean by sex for, you know, more than 10 minutes. So when we’re talking about having sex for a certain amount of time, we’re talking about penetrative sex, penis in vagina, or as most of these studies, when they define it, they defined it as

Céline Remy 4:51
very sexy term.

Kevin Anthony 4:52
Yeah. Intravaginal ejaculatory latency time (IELT), which refers to the time it takes a person with a people is to ejaculate during vaginal penetration. It’s a very scientific-sounding term. But basically, we mean when you put a penis in a vagina, how long can you make love for have sex for right? That’s what we’re talking about. So we wanted to make sure that people understood that we’re not talking about the entire range of sexual intercourse, which could include foreplay and oral sex, and talking and

Céline Remy 5:24
cuddling afterward.

Kevin Anthony 5:26
I’m talking about the penis goes in, and you’re having sex.

Céline Remy 5:31
So if we go back to our title, how long should sex last? Ultimately, I think that it should last as long as you want. And you’re the one who chooses. And that’s the thing. This is a very, very important point that we’re making here you choose. It’s not your body who’s choosing for you, like, oh, must come right now needs to ejaculate. Or like, it’s not the man who decides how long it lasts, because he’s done. It’s, it’s like, like, how long do you want it to last? And that’s really important reframe.

Kevin Anthony 6:00
Yeah. And I also want to say to and you can talk more about this when you’re talking about from the female perspective, but like, like the woman in that one quote that I read, she was skeptical. And she said, even if that were possible, it’d be at least 20 minutes too much of sex. Now, my personal feeling is because we’ve researched this pretty well. And we’ve seen a lot of comments from people who are saying that that’s too long. And my personal belief is, if you think that that’s too long, you’ve never had good sex. Absolutely. You know,

Céline Remy 6:35
you know, having great success. You’re not,

Kevin Anthony 6:37
You’re not, you may think you’ve had good sex, but you’ve never really had good sex. If you think sex for 20 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour, hour and a half are too long.

Céline Remy 6:48
Yes, I would have to agree with that. I want to give some more numbers just for the sake of it before we get into different views around what sex looks like, like, you know, in terms of lasting for women versus men. There was a study published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine and we found different years for it anywhere between 2005 and 2008, that they did those studies. So you know, it’s, it’s, it’s a little bit old, but it still gives us some idea.

Céline Remy 7:14
What they did, they asked random sex therapists their opinions on how long sex should last. And what they come up with, they rated penetrative vaginal sex that lasted from one to two minutes as too short, you think, sex that lasted 10 to 30 minutes as too long? 10 minutes, really? I mean, I take more time to eat that is insane.

Kevin Anthony 7:42
10 minutes is too long.

Céline Remy 7:44
And you know, it’s 10 to 30 minutes, but like, by the way, any type of movies nowadays is like an hour and a half, two hours, like so people would rather spend time watching something stupid on TV, rather than making love. Anyway, meanwhile, adequate sex lasted three to seven minutes. And desirable sex lasted 7-13 minutes.

Kevin Anthony 8:07
So you know, the only the only positive that I can think of in this entire discussion so far, is that when you look at some of the old research that was done, it shows that the average man only lasts about five to seven minutes or three to five, depending on which study it was, you know, and when you read this that says,  desirable sex is 7 to 13 minutes long.

Well, first of all, you’re already outside the five to seven, even if you’re giving the guys credit, which means the guys aren’t lasting as long as even the women are saying right now that they think is the right number.

Kevin Anthony 8:41
But at least it’s not that far away. Like the only positive I can come up with is that, that what people are most people are capable of is at least somewhat in the ballpark of what most people think the problem, however, is that what most people think, is extremely limiting. I don’t understand how there are intentionally setting the bar so low for themselves. Yeah.

Céline Remy 9:08
speechless. shaking my head here for the audience. And like, like, I don’t even know what to say, this is so sad.

Kevin Anthony 9:16
It is sad. And that’s why I got really fired up when like researching this and wanting to talk about it. Because honestly, if you’re in that camp, where you think that 10 to 30 is too long, and that, you know, three to seven is desirable. You really need to redefine what sex means. Because, and we’ve talked about this many times on the show, there are places of bliss, and ecstasy, and energy that you just cannot get to, without at least 30 to 40 minutes of good sex. Hmm.

Céline Remy 9:58
So now that we’re on the subjects, what I’m curious about, I want to share a woman’s perspective on how long you want sex to last. And obviously, it is my perspective. It’s, it’s my opinion, you take it, live it to whatever you want with it. But ultimately, I think that you know, if we approach sex as a thing of like, tomorrow, the marathon has this amount of like, here, gotta go for this length for this duration. And you’re so focused on the goal, it takes away from the experience.

But I also think that if, if you’re thinking, Okay, this has been long enough, as a woman, which happens a lot, you definitely not getting the kind of sex that you want and like, and I think that’s also when it comes in,

Céline Remy 10:44
I think we women have a responsibility to speak up, speak up for what we want for what we desire. And also for like, asking for more. I think as a principal as the feminine. We helped to bring out the best in the masculine when we hold higher standards, the men show up for us. And it’s essential that we do that as well in the bedroom. So if we start to demand sex that is longer or a different type of sex, because I agree an hour full pounding might get a little too long. Like I’m not like my vagina is not a full yes to that. That’s just put it that way.

Kevin Anthony 11:25
Not always, sometimes.

Céline Remy 11:29
When I’m ovulating Yes, that’s true. Okay, but the bottom line is, sex is not just penis inside the vagina and going really quickly. There are different things that can happen while keeping the penis inside the vagina, you can vary the tempo and vary the positions and you can breathe together, look into each other’s eyes angle,

Kevin Anthony 11:51
the motion,

Céline Remy 11:53
absolutely.

Kevin Anthony 11:54
stillness. Yes,

Céline Remy 11:56
actually, some of the best moments in sex happen when you don’t do anything. And what I’ve noticed is the more I chase something, whether it’s an orgasm, a sensation at the more it kind of like, like goes away, or when it comes to quickly. I’m over pushing it away, or I can make it come too quickly. And the more I am still, then I’m not trying to make something happen, which then takes me on the ride.

And I think that’s what is really amazing. When you are able to get to that place of like, Hey, I don’t have a set mindset of what things should look like, show me where today goes. And you know, I’m just thinking about it as an analogy to there are things that you do every single day, probably like eating and brushing your teeth and showering.

Céline Remy 12:53
Sometimes the shower, the water gets really hot, and you have to put it on a lower setting in order to make it sustainable. So you can stay in that hot steam for a little while longer. Sometimes the water is like not as hot, and you have to put more to go lower on the level to bring more hot water. I feel like it’s kind of similar to your sexual energy. When you’re in the bedroom, you have to adjust to where you are at. Sometimes you feeling hotter than others, sometimes you are more motivated for it. And ultimately, it’s really about being in the present. So that’s my very lengthy definition of how long sex should last.

Céline Remy 13:33
But I’m also going to say one more thing before I give you the mic again, Kevin is like, honestly, anything below 20 minutes is not even worth calling lovemaking in my opinion. I mean, it’s a quickie. And I don’t reach higher states. Unless we get to that 20-30-40 minutes, mark.

Kevin Anthony 13:54
Yeah. And I would like to say like, if somebody is listening to this, and they’re hearing Celine say, Well, I think just don’t get to the States. unless I’ve been 2030 minutes. Some of you are probably thinking already that there must be something wrong with Celine because you’re thinking, well, you can get there in 10 minutes, or, you know, 15 minutes or seven minutes even. But you have to realize that the levels that she’s talking about are most likely, much higher than where you go in your seven or 10 minutes. So yeah, you have to understand that.

Kevin Anthony 14:29
We consider 30 minutes. a quickie. That’s the kind of our cut off like if we, if we make love more than 30 minutes, we’re like, okay, that’s decent. You know, 40 minutes, 45 to an hour. That’s, that’s like a good, nice lovemaking session. It’s not overly long. And it’s not a quickie. Anything less than 30 minutes is an absolute quickie, there’s just no doubt about it, the time that it takes to generate the energy flow and to raise yourself to these other states, it just takes time and it can’t be rushed. As you said, you can’t force it.

Céline Remy 15:05
Yeah, and I mean, also, I guess it depends, if all you’re doing is making love and, and you are constantly in a state of bliss and turn on and you have no pressure from outside, you don’t need to make money, you don’t need to be somewhere or take care of other people. Yes, fine. You might be in that constant state, and you may not need as long. But because of the world we live in, we have stressors, we have outside demands, we have so many things that happen, it takes a little while to settle in,

Kevin Anthony 15:35
you know, from a guy’s perspective. You know, I want to make love for as long as the two of us are really enjoying it. And, you know, there are tons of things that that you do like, like if you’re a guy, and you enjoy watching sports? Do you want to watch 10 minutes of a football game? Or do you want to watch three hours of footage? Well, most of you would say three hours. Why? Because it’s fun to watch. And the longer you watch, the more fun you’re having, right? It’s the same thing with sex, like, do you want to have sex for five minutes? Or would you rather have that same and potentially higher levels of enjoyment and satisfaction and fun for a longer period of time?

Kevin Anthony 16:22
So it’s like, okay, I could have sex for 10 minutes. And that was enjoyable. Or I could have that same level of enjoyment, but enjoy it for 30 minutes, or 40 minutes or an hour. And most likely, it’s not even going to be the same level, it’s going to be even higher level than where you were before. So for me, as long as the two of us are actively engaged and connected to each other and enjoying it, and having fun and both wanting to be there and both enjoying taking the energy to new levels, then there’s really no limit.

I mean, I think our current limit is about six hours. But I ended that because I realized that I had to go home and go to work.

Kevin Anthony 17:11
And there have been other times, you know, that have been very, very long. Not that we’re trying to go that long. We didn’t even have any idea that it had been that long. It’s just that we were in that flow. We were just enjoying every moment of it, riding that roller coaster up and down and up and down. And it didn’t matter how long it was.

Céline Remy 17:32
Mm-hmm. So the question often people say, so why would you want to have sex for that long? That’s usually what people tell us. Oh, yes, we’ve

Kevin Anthony 17:41
we’ve had that question posed to us multiple times. Why would you want to do that?

Céline Remy 17:47
Why not. But I think it goes beyond that. I, you know, so if we start to see sex as a place to release dress, not for an agenda, orgasm, that releases stress. But as a place to convert sex and stress, you know, from the sex you have, you’re releasing deep stresses you are getting into a peaceful state. But the sexual energy that you are generating, can start to supercharge your body. And it can boost your sexual health, your mental sharpness, your sense of well being of self-esteem. And we’ll get into the benefits of sex in a while.

Céline Remy 18:31
But when you start to view sex as a place to recharge your batteries, rather as a place to just release tension or have a microsecond of fulfillment, then you start to see that it’s better to go for something that’s a little longer, because you start to it needs a little bit more time to start to develop those benefits and generate enough energy to get to those places says,

Kevin Anthony 19:00
Yeah, and this comes back to a statement I made more towards the beginning of the show, which is that anybody that thinks that you know, sex from you know, seven to 13 minutes is too long. Or whatever the number was, I don’t remember off the top my head, that it’s because they’re not having great sex. And so I guess what I’m trying to say is, if you look at sex as something that you have to do because your partner wants it, or you know, you want to make your partner happy, or, you know,

Céline Remy 19:38
you want to have a good night’s sleep.

Kevin Anthony 19:40
Yeah, maybe you just want to have a quick orgasm and have a good night’s sleep. Or, in other words, if you’re looking at sex, from those points of view, then I can understand why you would probably only want seven to 10 minutes of sex. You know, if sex with your partners is really not very good. It’s not that enjoyable, and it becomes a chore, then I get it.

And honestly, I personally believe that most of the people who are answering in that range are doing it because are saying that range because their sexuality isn’t good. And it’s most likely a chore that they just do because that’s what they’re supposed to do.

Céline Remy 20:16
You know, I read some comments online to that. Some people were like, if you take more than two minutes, it means she’s not hot enough. And I was like, What is that? Like, if you thinking that if he takes too long to come? It’s because you’re not worthy, or you’re not hot enough for a few things like, Hey, I’m taking too long. It’s her like, this is the stupidest idea ever.

Kevin Anthony 20:42
I was just gonna say it’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

Céline Remy 20:44
Yes. So you can’t. That’s, by the way, super important. And I teach that a lot to my clients. You can’t link your self worth to your partner’s orgasm.

Kevin Anthony 20:54
Well, yeah. So there are some women who believe that the faster they can make a guy ejaculate, the more powerful they are. And they don’t always consciously realize that they’re doing this. But if a woman is with a man, and he’s constantly having premature ejaculation, one of the things that we teach is look at yourself as the woman and see what are you doing? Are you pulling him over the edge intentionally? Is this a way for you to show how powerful you are? Because sometimes that’s the case. It ultimately always leads to your own disappointment. Mm-hmm. But that’s a whole nother thing.

Céline Remy 21:35
Okay, so I want to bring one more point that I think is crucial and, and it’s a massive reframe that sex ends when you satisfied when you feel complete. Sex doesn’t end because there’s ejaculation or orgasm. We’ve already talked about this in numerous shows that ejaculation and orgasms are two different things, they can be separated. And a lot of women listening probably can relate.

We don’t always have orgasms with intercourse. As a matter of fact, some women are just totally fine, I’m fine. If I don’t have in orgasm, per se, when I’m having sex, it’s just about the connection. And for some it like they can’t grasp their mind around that. And so the only way to end sex is through that ejaculation and or orgasm.

Céline Remy 22:29
So when we are doing sex for the sake of connecting generating energy and elevating ourselves through love because it’s called lovemaking. And in ancient times, it was considered a blessing to be next to newlyweds people, because, you know, they would make love and it’s and it was fought that the neighborhoods with benefits from this extra love that was being generated.

Kevin Anthony 22:55
I know ours does.

Céline Remy 22:58
I’m not quite sure there is somebody absolutely love the acoustics of it, but

Kevin Anthony 23:04
but they’re benefiting whether they realize it or not.

Céline Remy 23:06
That is correct inspires them. We do inspire. Okay, back to my point. So it doesn’t need to end right in that, okay, completion of the orgasm or ejaculation, sex and when you feel complete, it’s such a weird concept. Sometimes I just feel like I tell Kevin, I’m like, Okay, I’m done now how about a snuggle, and he’ll pull out. He’ll still have an erection and everything is fine.

And this is one of the biggest things that we focus on in our coaching and even like working either in our courses, or one on one with clients is to start for people, both men and women to understand that concept. Because if you start to really understand that, it changes how you approach lovemaking. It really does.

Céline Remy 24:02
And that’s why I thought it was so important to bring this point in this show for you to realize if there’s one thing that you’re going to take away from today’s show, is it shouldn’t be that that section last as long as you wanted and you ended whenever you choose it and the end is not the ejaculation or the orgasm.

Kevin Anthony 24:22
Absolutely. That was so perfectly stated. There’s no need to restate it. But I will say you know, with even with all of our talk about, you know, our long, multi-hour long, you know, we’re not saying that you’re terrible at sex if you can’t make love for that long. The idea is to just basically give you an idea of what’s possible. And then take it as far as you want to take it.

Céline Remy 24:48
Absolutely. Now sometimes we have quickies like we have 10 minutes quickly and it’s mostly those that happen in odd locations at weird times where it’s just really animalistic this for us never end in ejaculation.

Céline Remy 25:04
Never. Because the whole goal here is really just to plug-in, put it in and have that quick sex knowing that it’s just a few minutes. So like five to 10 minutes, I was like, Oh my god, that was so cool with it that and we’re on the couch or in the middle of the kitchen. Like, you know, you just kind of let yourself be a little bit of an exhibitionist in your own house. And that’s fun, and it gets the energy going. And then we know that we’ll get back to it later and make love for longer.

Kevin Anthony 25:31
Yeah, and, and you know, really, the key to being able to do any of this. This from a guy’s perspective, is you have to learn how to separate your orgasms and your ejaculate. You have to master your ejaculate, you have to be able to decide if and when you have Jackie late, that’s the key to the whole thing. Women, they can have sex, they can have as many orgasms as they want, they can have sex for as long as they want. There’s, there’s really no issue there.

But for us guys, there is you know this, this fact that if we ejaculate, we will lose interaction and we will have a refractory period. So for us, the key really is learning how to separate those two and then have total control so that we decide when we want to and when we don’t want to.

Céline Remy 26:22
Absolutely. And if you last lesson it takes for you women to climax, then you jack relating to early. And that’s the truth. That’s how we define like premature ejaculation. It’s not like it’s basically if you can’t last as long as she needs you to last to be inside her for her to cum you are cumming too quickly.

Kevin Anthony 26:44
Yeah, and you know, science will define it differently, right? Yeah, no less than a minute or whatever it is. But no, our definition is if you can’t last as long as will your woman needs you to, for her to be satisfied. And maybe it’s for her to have an orgasm. Maybe it’s just for her to feel fulfilled and satisfied whenever it is, you have to be able to last long enough so that you both walk away from the experience feeling complete. Mm-hmm.

Céline Remy 27:10
Yeah. You know, it’s interesting, because when you’re in a new relationship, we somehow we kind of enter a different reality. I know that at the beginning of a relationship, it doesn’t really matter if we get lost in each other’s for hours, and we explore each other’s bodies. We can talk past midnight and tell each other secrets, and then make love and again and again and just like Woohoo.

Then you fast forward a few years a year living together. And you’re like, oh my god, I can’t believe we have to do something for that long. I think it’s really important to remember, like, remember, the joy you had at the beginning to discover each other’s body to explore things together.

Céline Remy 27:55
Even if you’ve been together for several years, you can still be surprised by your partner. And it is a trap that many people fall in and where they believe this is the box that my partner fits in its square like this. And these are the limitations, and nothing else can fit. Like they’re just fit in that box. And if you approach sex and your partner and your relationship from a place of like, Okay, well, they usually look like this, but I wonder how they going to show up today.

Or what could be different? Or I’m going to look at his eyes in a different way of feelings asked differently, you know, like, whatever that is, then you can bring in that element again of surprise of newness that makes you want to be in it for longer.

Kevin Anthony 28:44
You know, after the years that we’ve been together, and you know, even past relationships, I have never gotten to the point where I thought that sex was too long. I’m like, even years into relationships. I was never at the point where halfway to make love for a whole hour, you know, it’s just never happened. Usually, I’m the one going Oh, you don’t already. Okay.

Céline Remy 29:11
And I think sometimes it’s important to be like, I’ve been at times where it was really hard for me to get out of my head. I acknowledged it and said: “okay, honestly, I can’t stop thinking about whatever, like this article I’m supposed to write or this deadline or this or that”.  It’s in the way, and I can be fully present.

Sometimes we go like just verbalizing it helps. Or sometimes they Okay, let’s take a break, you go finish it, and then we come back. Or sometimes we change position or go for different sensations. And like, what article, I forgot all about it.

Céline Remy 29:46
So we want to leave you with some really things to look forward to. And what would be better than giving you 12 reasons to have more and longer sex, because we want to let you like we want you to want it right. So you want to have more and longer sex because it strengthens the immune system. It boosts your libido, lowers the blood pressure and helps your body to get in better physical condition. Yeah, that hot as hell helps prevent heart disease and heart attacks. And by the way, that’s true.

Like the studies on that, yeah, promotes better sleep makes you look younger, haha, much cheaper than some of the creams that we buy. It improves your brain function, it reduces stress reduces the risk of prostate cancer. And by the way, speaking of which, prostate massage works really well, too.

Céline Remy 30:41
Make sure you listen to our episode on prostate massage, it’s way back in the beginning. And so look for that one. It also puts you in a happy mood, you’re nicer to be around and people want to be around you. And it increases intimacy and makes your relationship stronger.

Kevin Anthony 30:57
Yeah, and you know, if we really set the write a longer list, we could write an even longer one than that. There are so many benefits. There are so many reasons why you should desire to last longer to have longer lovemaking. I mean, there’s, there’s just so many benefits, why wouldn’t you? So I would say if you’re listening to this, and you’re a guy, and you’re thinking, okay, you’ve convinced me, like, I want to figure out how to do this. But how? Then go to power mastery. com, go to master your ejaculation. And take that course to learn how to separate your orgasm from your ejaculation.

Kevin Anthony 31:38
Learn there, there are methods in there, there are tools that you can use, there’s a ton of information in there, figure out how to do it for your benefit and for hers. And I would say, you know if you want to go the next step further when we talk about this long sort of tantric lovemaking with these waves, and you take out sexual mastery course because that’s going to take it to the next level. It’s one thing to separate your orgasm and ejaculation. It’s another thing to figure out, how do you really have this out of this world fucking amazing mind-blowing, you know, just amazing sex that literally transports you to another dimension. And it’s all in there. And those courses.

Céline Remy 32:26
Have you as inspired as I am?

Kevin Anthony 32:30
You know, for us, we’re so passionate about this, because we know the potential that great lovemaking has, we know the potential it has to help the individual, we know the potential it has to help the relationship. And we know that when those healthy, happy and horny individuals make great relationships, they also take that out into the world and they make a better world.

Céline Remy 32:52
Mm-hmm. And we love that vision.

Kevin Anthony 32:55
And so we really want to empower everybody who’s listening here. Have the best sex they can possibly have. And then take the positive energy from that and share it with the fucking world. Hmm,

Céline Remy 33:08
hallelujah.

Kevin Anthony 33:12
All right, everybody. We hope you’re inspired. I know I certainly am. And we should probably end this really like right now. All right, everybody. That’s all the time we have and we will see you next week.

Kevin Anthony 33:30
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Céline Remy 33:37
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Kevin Anthony 33:54
Thanks for listening.

Céline Remy 33:55
And remember, you’re amazing